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Oche April 14th, 2015 09:53 PM

USMC Infantry Icon missing(corrected v9.1)
 
Not sure if it is a bug or not but since i applied patch 9.0 some infantry icons not showing in map with USMC OOB. Anyone else noticed this?

Mobhack April 14th, 2015 10:40 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Which units, what date?

is this an existing scenario or a brand new game?

Some hints to point us as to the direction of search might be helpful....

Andy

Oche April 14th, 2015 11:05 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
In both Editor and Quick battles, when buying units for USMC apparently in 1960s decade period (working in 1950s, 70s & 80s), Rifle Squads icons are not showing on Board.

Mobhack April 14th, 2015 11:30 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
It looks like there seems to be a problem in the game itself in displaying 14(+?) man sections - mobhack displays those just fine.

On the investigations list.

Andy

Suhiir April 14th, 2015 11:50 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Just did a little testing.
In 1961 the icons display just fine.
In 1962 they fail to display.
In 1971 they fail to display.
In 1972 the icons display just fine.

Possibly related to the 14-man squad used between 01/1962 - 12/1971?

Suhiir April 14th, 2015 11:51 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Seems Andy reached the same conclusion while I was typing.

DRG April 15th, 2015 03:45 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
This is because 13 men is the limit for infantry units in SPMBT !!

THERE ARE NO 14 MEN ICONS IN MBT AND THE GAME CAN'T DISPLAY WHAT IT DOESN'T HAVE

SPWW2 went to a 19 man system a few years back to accommodate the pre and early war Polish 19 man squads but MBT didn't use >13 man units (........until there was more tinkering done to that OOB this last time around........... ).

I'm still investigating WHY this happened and WHY it was missed but ATM it looks like the old EXE's showed >13 as 13 and the latest does not...... why ? IDK..... this may take a few days to sort out and I'm not very happy ATM

Don

Suhiir April 15th, 2015 08:50 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Thanks Don.

DRG April 15th, 2015 09:11 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
It's nothing you did to the OOB Suhiir. My investigation so far has shown that before this release 14 men was just shown as 13 in MBT and I doubt anybody noticed the difference. I had considered switching MBT to the 19 man WW2 system at one point but it seemed more trouble than it was worth at the time so I didn't but some of my "test" code to check feasibility *may* have been left in which is what *may* have caused this but that is still conjecture at this time.

Still not even close to 100% post surgery and I can't spend the time I'd like to , to get this sorted but it will get fixed eventually.

Don




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scorpio_rocks April 15th, 2015 11:03 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Please "fix" your health, as best you can, first Don!

We can wait (we didn't anticipate an update at all this year) - Get Well Soon

Suhiir April 15th, 2015 11:18 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
I agree with scorpio, while annoying this is hardly vital.

Mobhack April 15th, 2015 11:23 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Quick interim fix would be to edit those in mobhack to 13 men and re-run the CC on the OOB.

Not sure of 60's USMC scenarios - there may be some, and the edit might fix the icon there too, otherwise a bit of work is needed if wanting to play those.

cheers
Andy

Che200 April 15th, 2015 12:10 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Hi Guys ,

anybody having problems with crew survivability in version 9 ? I have noticed that destroyed unit crews don't survive anymore

Paderborn April 15th, 2015 06:04 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
I had the same problem as well and through trial and error found that the infantry units I created made up of 15+ men would not show
their icon on the map.

scorpio_rocks April 15th, 2015 07:51 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Che200 (Post 829430)
Hi Guys ,

anybody having problems with crew survivability in version 9 ? I have noticed that destroyed unit crews don't survive anymore

Yes, I believe you are right.

I ran a quick test and out of 3 companies (42 tanks) of US M1A2 SEP V2, all of which were destroyed by a variety of methods (HESH, SABOT, HEAT, artillery, airstrikes, etc), not one crew survived! :eek:

Mobhack April 16th, 2015 05:54 AM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Ok - bailout bug looks to be fixed ( a typo in there)
- the problem with teams with >13 men now seems fixed

both fixes are in testing ATM.

Steves308 April 24th, 2015 12:38 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
Let me start out by saying this is not a complaint, just a question. Does the bailout bug also apply to loaded up troops, or just crews? Since I read your post, I've suddenly noticed when shooting up loaded BMPs/Bradleys I am not seeing any indication of partial squads surviving the destruction of their vehicle. I plan on testing this closer this evening, but I was just curious.

Mobhack April 24th, 2015 12:43 PM

Re: USMC Infantry Icon missing
 
All - crews and pax both.

As noted above its now fixed, just undergoing final testing for release.


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