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Has anyone on here that plays WinSPMBT ever played Wargame Red Dragon and what are your views on it compared to Steel Panthers?

Video links to gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdNv6Pi2tLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emKYh1B9uSo

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Seen it ... I have had similar games and all lack a couple major components SPMBT has in spades. Scenarios and replay-ability.
Buy it, play it once, put it on a shelf to collect dust.

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I've got the first game in the series, it's fun, but much of the replay-ability is in the multiplayer.

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I played the base game and european escalation or something, which was its first dlc. Good fun game which I played many hours, but my problem with it and other similar games, I can't stand real time strategy games which require micro-management for long. I have no problem with say the C&C series because they are more "lite".
I haven't played Red Dragon in particular, but it does look sweet.

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Hear, hear to that Suhiir, well said...On another note, i'd say that if you prefer turn based tactical/strategy modern warfare wargames to real time based wargames (but also like some aspects of real time wargames) you should definitely look into the Combat Mission series such as Combat Mission: Shock Force & Combat Mission: Black Sea. :fire:

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I have played Red Dragon but I consider it more of an RTS than a serious sim. It is more "sim" than most RTS games but not any where close to Steel Panthers.

As Oche suggested you should really look into the Combat Mission series by Battelfront.com and I would also suggest the Campaign Series by Matrix Games/Slitherine.

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The other games I like are Total War Napoleon, and, to a lesser extent, Rome 2 and Atilla by Creative Assembly. Napoleon TW (especially with Darth Mod) has a nice balance between musket armed infantry, muzzle loading artillery and cavalry, and you can play the Peninsular War as Wellington and his British Army (with Portuguese, Kings German Legion and Spanish allies) liberates Portugal and Spain and goes on to invade Southern France. Naval warfare 'aint bad in Napoleon too.

I am very much hoping their next Historical Total War game -after the warhammer fantasy nonsense- will be Victorian 19th Century with a full world map.

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I didn't list all the Total War games since they are RTS (More or less) and this is a turn based wargame. That said I have every Total War and rank them extremely high on my "great" list. If a turn based fan of Steel Panthers will agree is debatable. I do hope they would approach it with an open mind.

P.S. Next Total War.... An era they haven't covered yet is the official word. My guess is China but who knows. I don't see the engine working well post Empire area.

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I started way back with tabletop miniatures (and so WinSPMBT really hits the spot for me). I played Combat Mission for a while, but I understand it doesn't go well with windows 10. Currently I am playing Wargame European Escalation.

I agree with you about the Total War series, especially the way you have the map where you move your units and then you get to go to the detail screen to resolve the battles yourself.

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I very much doubt China would have much interest outside China. Napoleon (post Empire) works very well. the CA, Total War 'Warscape' engine struggles a bit with hand to hand combat, not shooting.

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Firefight is a nice little platoon-sized WW2 skirmish level game.

http://www.windowsgames.co.uk/ff.html

cheers
Andy

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Maaan... you know Firefight too!
This was the game I played before I know Steel Panthers by you guys!

Back then my computer was too slow for Close Combat, so I gave Firefight a go. Oh lord I can't forget the nostalgic feeling... the cows mowing, the birds chirping on the battlefield, little tiny soldiers getting squashed into tomatoes, blue bars going black for lack of radio range, and most of all the green meadows & hedgerows of the map, I feel I can smell it alright.

But great as it is, the game is just not enough for me, the scope, unit diversity, maps, etc is just limited.

So imagine my COMPLETE ECSTASY when I found WinSPWW2!! I remember laughing out loud (with satisfaction mind you, not humor!) looking at the mindboggling scope of this game, the unit encyclopedia, the huge maps, man!!! I remember showing it to a friend sitting beside me, who can only sneer with confusion, "What's so great about that 2D hexagon game!" You wouldn't believe that I ACTUALLY PRINTED the game manual and read it in school, despite it was an end-term exam period.

(If I remember correctly, I found about WinSPWW2 by stumbling upon DRG's Linetap website, not this forum).


Ah the old days.... :o

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Look interesting, have to check it out.

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My brother found this:

http://www.oocities.org/area51/rampart/1966/BTR.htm

I ended up using it in that weird New York-New Jersey War that I was talking about earlier. Could come in handy for theatre-level matchups.

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Looks interesting, but Google's website safety checker reports that site as unsafe right now?

https://www.google.com/transparencyr...w.oocities.org

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Red Dragon almost daily basis. This game is far from realistic, but provides somewhat climatic spectrum of modern combat. And most importantly, modern tactics actually work.
I got my heart softened, I even ignore game's must-have balance.

It ends when I deploy Otomatics in opening stages :3

Besides that:
- Darkers Hour, particularly with Kaiserreich mod. It is heavily upgraded Hearts of Iron 2
- War Thunder once in a while (but I warn you, this game causes agression. A lot of it.)
- Recently going with Disonored Series (offtopic though given these forums :P)
- And to continue offtopic, I recommend the game "Life is Strange" even though it looks like teen drama
- Going back to wars, I do quite an amount of Napoleon Total War, Empire Total War, eventually Rome 2 once in a while. I also got Fall of the Samurai
- Combat Missions series, new ones
- I touched Close Combat series, but never liked those
- ...and I like to race a bit in DiRT 3 ;)

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Good to see I'm not the only one shouting at my computer playing this :P

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Its good for you that you only shout :D
I shout particularly at T-34 rule. Remember everybody, T-34 is undestructible tank that takes no critical hits unless you drive it.

What tiers you got?

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There a some good Games i loved and
remember sometimes:

Day of the Tentacle
Monkey Island
Lands of Lore
Panzer General
Gangsters Organized Crime
The Elder Scrolls Morrowind
East Front
Norm Koger's Operational Art of War
Baldurs Gate 2 Throne of Bhaal
Gothic 1 and 2
America's Army

Still playing sometimes:

Mount and Blade Warband
Cities Skylines
Stellaris
Grigsby's War in the East

but for instance i'm not really pissed off if i loose a bataillion - playing war in the east.
Do not really care about loosing a planet - playing Stellaris.

Don't know how to explain in a foreign language. I like these games but they don't last longer than a year on my laptop. Except SPWW2 and SPMBT, i am getting old with these.

The last one, MBT i am only interested in Vietnam Aera. Playing USMC. (Hooah)

And SPWW2 is a special one. Starting a campaign in 39 i gave the leader of my core units names. From old friends of mine no matter if they have already died. People i like and whom i trust. They are the backbone of my army. (To keep it that way, they often get better weapons, lmg's instead of smg for instance)

Ja and with these units i play a long time. The longest campaign . Sometimes my wife must must ähmm don't know the english word. She reminds me that i should come in bed. :heart:

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My favourite strategy games used to be Close Combat and TOAW, but WinSPWW2 and MBT have long since pushed them out of the spotlight :)

I'll also mention the Myth series here (real time tactics genre). You can't build any units and are always badly outnumbered, so tactics are really important. I was pleasantly surprised by this, especially considering the fantasy setting. Pretty good storytelling as well.

Also, OpenXcom is awesome.

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My all time favorites:

- Steel Panthers (i still remember when i played fresh SP2 demo that was included on CD of some gaming magazine, 20 years ago)
- Gary Grygsby's War In The East
- Silent Hunter 3
- Jagged Alliance 2
- Hearts Of Iron 2 (especially Darkest Hour)
- Master Of Orion 1 & 2

Honorable mentions:
- Command Modern Air Naval Ops
- Revolution Under Siege
- Falcon 4.0 (+ BMS)
- Dangerous Waters
- Distant Worlds
- Theatre Of War
- Supreme Ruler series
- Command Ops 2
- Unity Of Command

This list is by no means complete, but all of these titles definitely have some quality to them.

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SPWAW,
Age of Rifles,
Steel Panthers 1,2,3.
Gunship 2000,
Pike and Shot.

troopie

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Pike & Shot Campaigns
The Operational Art of War
War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition
Command: Modern Air / Naval Operations

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A game that I recently found about it, Fire-Brigade The Battle for Kiev 1943, released in 1989 by Panther Games an Australian company. I was heavily into wargames and strategy games by the late 80s, but still somehow missed it. It was an Atari ST, Amiga, Mac game. I can't find it now (I wonder why), so I am trying to at least find it in some way or another for the Atari ST.
So yes I haven't actually played it yet, but I am eager to do so.

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My first IBM PC was "justified" by the naval game Harpoon which was PC-only.

I already had the rule set, some micro ships, and a few scenario books (one on the Falklands, I recall). But I only managed to get one player v player game of the tabletop wargame going at the local wargames club since there was no interest. That one game was a simple "frigate hunts diesel sub" mission and in the time available in the club not much happened in the 10 or so turns we managed.

The PC version was so much better than tabletop. Though there was nonsense like a Nimrod dropping 100 sonobouys and all became little individually reporting sonars.. In reality, back then a sonobouy processor could only run a relatively modest number of the things (in the 16 - 24 sort of figure - depends on the sonobouy). Guess who worked on AQS901 for the Sea King and so was "Mr Picky":p

The first version of Harpoon was really good - the later ones went all multiple window, and lost the ease of playability.

There also was Red Storm Rising - a cartoonish sub simulation that worked rather well, and 688i attack sub which was a bit "meh". Task Force 1942, then SSIs great naval battles series.

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Did someone say Red Storm Rising? I loved the game. In fact, it's part of my collection. LOVE IT.

https://s15.postimg.org/l9acdo3gr/rsr_DSC_0260.jpgimg upload

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Fire-Brigade The Battle for Kiev 1943, released in 1989 by Panther Games

It's on www.old-games.com - at least what looks to be a PC version. Whether you can get it to run though...