(Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

spob16, Germany
Unit Number 700 (Brandenburger)
They are holding 1000lb Bombs in Weapon Slots 1 and 2 (Fair enough)





Thanks for a wonderful Game and your constant work

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Already brought up in the release thread, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=51493 a few days ago. Is in the process of being fixed.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Actually, that unit is carrying 140 them :doh:

Those are supposed to be vz.9 SMG so if you want to fix it now...open MOBHack then copy German weapon 158 into slot 198 then rename it vz.9 SMG. Don't forget click on the red check first THEN save.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Similar bug: Polish #600 PZL P-38 Wilk super-bomber ;)

There should be 20mm FK wz.38 gun. A new one can be made, or weapon 166 HS-9 might be used eventually.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

@Mobhack Copy that, HQ.
@DRG Thanks for the advice. Done! I changed Value of Unit to 26 also)


Grrreetings from Germany

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

IDK what happened that those bombs were placed in the German and Polish OOB. I know for certain I didn't do it deliberately

Don

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Well I don't feel QUITE so bad about that one.....it's been like that for THREE YEARS !!

It's supposed to be weapon # 8

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Well..... the GOOD NEWS is that only 2 OOB's that had 1000 pound bombs in slot 198 that were used incorrectly have now been identified. There are other OOB's with 1000 pound bombs in that weapon slot but they are either not being used or WERE being used correctly

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Vers.10 2017

spob 16
Germany
unit 553
Weapon slot 1= 1000lbs bomb


To my excuse: I have holiday :)

Edit
Not to my excuse: I'm a Dummy, because you gave a workaround, but I played with my foot nails instead.

Those are supposed to be vz.9 SMG so if you want to fix it now...open MOBHack then copy German weapon 158 into slot 198 then rename it vz.9 SMG. Don't forget click on the red check first THEN save.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Yes, we know. It has been corrected.......stay tuned

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Ja but we can't fix it in the way of copying vz.9 SMG in weapon Slot 198. Cause now i remember why i haven't done it myself yet.

Weapon 198, the 1000lb bomb, is an explosion on the battlefield. It must remain untouched. (we need for ammo explosion)

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

In winSPWW2 the "explosion on the battlefield" is weapon 183...in winSPMBT it's weapon 198 and somehow......we are baffled as to how or why......some of these ended up in WW2 OOB's at different times...three years ago the Polish OOB last year the German OOB....doubly baffled as it is impossible to cut and paste from one games OOB's to the other.

.. there is one 1000 pound bomb used in WW2 that is correct in weapon slot 198 in the Anzac OOB but that is it. It also appears in other OOB's but unused and therefore benign so it is safe to manually correct that weapon to a vz.9 SMG

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Thanks a lot for clarifying, spending your time for the detailed information.

Aaaachtung stillgestanden:
DRG, I hereby award you with the great cross of explanation first class!

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

Just I d'like to add that P-38 Wilk as a prototype was not used during September 1939 but was intended to be build in 1940. Poland for their future aircraft has a 20mm gun wz.38 the same which were used in TKS in FK-A variant but aircraft variant was called 20mm wz.38 FK-D and were modified to have better speed of fire. FK-D was intended to be a future heavy MG for polish aircraft's which wasn't build because defeat in 1939.
http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum27/1_copy5.jpg


Just do like to propose to move PZL P-38 Wilk to blue OOB. That will free in polish OOB class of ground attack aircraft’s and weapon slot with 20mm FK-D like Horten Go-229 will be there for some what-if sceneries where Poland survive September 1939 and developing of polish weapons go ahead.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

With all the publicity that these thousand pounder Brandenburgers have got, I just had to go and try how they would actually work in a game...

First try: a dozen Brandenburger bomb teams hiding in bushes around objective hexes somewhere in Russia in 1942, with a couple of companies of KV tanks bearing in their direction. As the tanks got close up, the brave bomb teams started chucking their explosives - but to their great disappointment, most of the bombs did little more than scratch paint on the tanks. Luckily the Brandenburgers had also brought their trusty Sprengladungs, which managed to destroy around six tanks in total, with the bombs blowing up a few more with lucky hits, as well as immobilising a couple. But overall the Brandenburger teams would have better leaving the big bombs home and bringing instead more Sprengladung. Though against lighter tanks they might have done a lot better.

Second try: similar set-up as before, but instead of tanks several companies of penal infantry were sent to root out the Brandenburgers. This time the bombs proved quite destructive - whenever enemy infantry made it to neighbouring hex, a bomb chucked in their direction quickly drove them off in panic with numerous casualties. However, where terrain was not close enough, the enemy infantry could work to the flanks of the Brandenburgers and pour rifle fire from a few hexes away, with the Germans lacking any firearms to respond with. In a very close terrain the bomb teams might have been able to hold their own, but in this case they got largely flushed out from their positions.


On a more serious note, I do recall hearing stories of late war Japanese infantry using aeroplane bombs as infantry weapons. This involved digging a hole in the ground, placing a suitably large bomb inside, camouflaging the hole, and then having it manned by a poor infantryman with a hammer. In case of enemy (preferably a tank) reaching the location, the infantryman was supposed to hit the detonator with a hammer to trigger the explosion. In game terms, arrangements like this are probably best represented by immobile booby traps etc.

Re: (Vers.10/2017) spob16,Unit 700 holding 1000lbs Bombs
 

It's in ground attack class AS A PROTOTYPE...if you want to "What if" then change the OOB yourself. I do not need an extra weapons slot clear in that OOB so it's just fine as it is.