Latest patches killed both games for me ( RESOLVED )
 

Applied the latest patches to previous working versions of SPWW2 and SPMBT (10.01 and 11.01).

Went to save a scenario in the editor and used the new "go to" button to find a slot. Game froze. Had to click "close window" on the game icon to exit the game. Now the game will not load. Opening screen comes up but clicking "Play WinSPWW2" closes it.

Tried re-applying the latest patch. Game still will not load.

Identical experience with SPMBT.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Does it still not load after a reboot ? I have always found that a "hard" shutdown like that freezes the games as you described but a reboot clears the problem up



I have used the GOTO to save scenarios and save games dozens of times without any trouble......just retested now and it's working OK

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1522413129

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

We are going to need all the info you can give us about your computer.

And we need others to try using the GOTO to save a game or scenario and let us know if it causes problems ....Andy and I tested that numerous times without any problems whatsoever. I just tried it again with my "virgin" test installation game and it sailed through the process without any difficulty

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Reboot allowed me to open SPWW2 but not SPMBT. Once SPWW2 opened, using the GOTO to save a scenario in the editor killed it again.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/30/2018, 08:22:30
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Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

I just tried both games again and everything worked perfectly on a GOTO scenario save. My OS is the same as yours and my CPU is similar. We are going to need more feedback from others about this.....I know some may now be reluctant to try but if we do have a problem we need more than one report. Right now I cannot explain how it would not allow you to run MBT after a reboot or why it's crashing on GOTO still with WW2

Does your installation game path differ from the standard? I have tested both the standard installation and my "working game" installation which is not "standard" and both run flawlessly

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

The GOTO function takes you to the specified slot, with the relevant game selected ready to save or load etc. as per the action being done, in your case saving a file.

At that point it is in the wait for keyboard input for a file name just as if you had clicked the slot with the mouse in a regular save.

While waiting for a string, it will accept only characters in the red file name field with RETURN to accept the current file name, or ESCAPE to get you back to the save screen to select another file slot etc.

If this was the cause of your"freeze" then in future -
- enter a new file name if desired (typing characters, using backspace or delete etc)
THEN:
- press ENTER to save the file with the current file name and close the save screen
- press ESCAPE to return to the main save game screen without a save

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

As to trying to stop the game by "clicking close window"

The game window does not have a close window icon in the top right corner, since it has to be properly shut down through the main menu screen. It is deliberately designed to not have such a "one click exit" in order to not have an easy way to mis click on 1 icon and nuke a currently running game, and because it was originally an MSDOS application anyway.

I presume the one you clicked on is the desktop bar in the windows task bar?. If you used that then Windows probably simply removed the task from the task bar and left it running in the background since windows has no way to stop the game. So when you tried to use the game launcher - it exited immediately as the game is found to be still running.

In that case you need to kill it via the Windows Task Manager (CTRL+ALT+DEL and launch task manager, find it on the list of running tasks, and kill it there)

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

CB..........you need to detail exactly the steps you took that caused the problem for you because we can't recreate it

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

No issues saving / loading existing games or new ones using "GOTO"
(SPMBT & SPWWII - Win 10)

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Finally installed the patches, and no problems on goto feature at all.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Just applied the patches to my 5 year old laptop and they appear to work fine. So obviously there is something about my desktop that is off.

Though both games were working fine on my desktop prior to the patches, they were relatively new installs following an HD crash a couple of months before. Perhaps adjustments to the .ini file or a re-install of both games is in order. I will do that and report back.

Thanks for the quick responses and hopefully I haven't created undo alarm.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Just try to save a game as you are, and see if ESCAPE lets you back to the save screen, or RETURN saves it in the slot its currently selected.

the big hint will be the red text entry box for the file name - see the picture that Don put up, its underneath the INPUT A NAME FOR YOUR SCENARIO message and it only appears if you click on a save game slot with your mouse - or in the case of GOTO, which has done the "mouse click" part for you already.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

The GOTO option for saving works for me in both games.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Well, you did title the thread "Latest patches killed both games for me" ....how could it not?

Usually when Andy and I finish one of these things the closest analogy would be two marathon runners collapsing just past the finish line. This year we spent twice the amount of time checking and rechecking the work. Hearing " patches killed both games" is no cause for joyous celebration......:eek:

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

You can certainly delete the thread if you want but I haven't reported anything incorrectly. "[F]or me" (as I carefully included in the title), the games worked on my preferred system before the patches and now they do not. But given that no one else has reported the problem, it sounds like it's something with my system so I will investigate further and try to fix on my end.

By the way, did we lose the Sturmtiger pic with this release or has it never been there? I was working on a scenario using it before the patch and could have swore that the unit had a picture. Now it does not.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

congratulations you found the only one in that series that was missed being moved from my working game to the patch folder.

$hit happens......

Extract the attachment to your ( and anyone else interested )Game Data/Pictures folder.

It's now been added to next years patch folder as well

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Thanks!

After 40 years of researching German armor in WWII, I finally found a credible source describing a battle involving Sturmtigers, namely Guderian (son of the General), "From Normandy to the Ruhr: With the 116th Panzer Division in World War II" (Sept. 2001), so I thought I'd take a shot at a SPWW2 scenario covering it.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

I changed the .ini settings to match those of my old system and re-installed the patches and now the games are working.

Not sure what caused the problems but I suspect that after doing a fresh install of the games a couple of months ago, I never adjusted the .ini settings which only became an issue after the latest patches.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

If you have an anti-virus of the sort that "sandboxes" new (including changed) executables (like my Avast AV does) then the exe can run for a few minutes and then get terminated. That got so irritating in the development environment that I dug through the options and found out how to "white list" folders so id did not do the sand-boxing (tries run it once for a minute or so, then just terminates it and restarts the thing. That gets old very quickly when you are doing the "change a line of code, rebuild and try to get back to the breakpoint you were debugging at" cycle!).

It may be that you have an AV that is doing some sort of "whoa - the WW2 EXE has changed!" thing and not reporting it well, or has decided its suspicious, or has pop-ups turned off etc. If so it may be worthwhile figuring out how to "white list" the shrapnel games folder hierarchy in your anti-virus software.

Re: Latest patches killed both games for me
 

Which INI did you change? There are 6 of them.

I can ASSUME but it's better to know.

• Did you change it manually?
• Which lines needed to be changed?
• Did you find anything way off?