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RetLT June 10th, 2018 10:59 AM

Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
I have noticed that when an aircraft fires direct fire at a target not directly ahead it will continue straight rather than following its exit orders. This often causes the strike aircraft to venture into high AAA areas that it was given orders to avoid.

For example, an SU-25 is ordered to enter from 7 o'clock and exit at 5 o'clock. It fires at a target off to the side of its path and continues straight to exit at 2 o'clock.

Is this intended? I can see a pilot targeting a target of opportunity but I don't see why he would not follow his egress orders especially since the reason for the ordered turn is to avoid AAA fire.

This happens in MBT and WW2

DRG June 10th, 2018 12:34 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
I had not noticed this happening. I will set up a test later today using your example and see if the same thing happens but the main trigger is firing off its line so if YOU have a save that shows this post it

lukerduker123 June 10th, 2018 09:01 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
Can confirm, this happens to me too. They see en enemy that's not directly in front of them, they strafe it, then they fly away. If there's another enemy directly in front of them they have a chance of dumping their bombs on them and turning away. If not they'll just fly straight until the edge of the map. I've lost quite a few aircraft to this.

RetLT June 10th, 2018 10:31 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
Set up a small scale example and got the anticipated results. save 18 is the pre strike turn and save 19 is the turn that can be played back.

All aircraft were to attack the pre-registered hex. they were to approach from low left and exit low right. The one that attacked off of its straight line went straight after the attack.

RetLT June 10th, 2018 10:36 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
It is saying "invalid file" when I attempt to upload. PM me an email and I will send them
.

If you want to try to replicate, I set up 3 rows of trucks and attacked them in the above described manner. I had the all attack the same hex so as to get some fanning out.

DRG June 11th, 2018 08:18 AM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
Did you zip the CMT and DAT files for the save up ?.. DAT files are not on the " accepted file type" list..... either way.... Andy tells me he has seen it happen as well and started around the time we allowed strafing at targets not directly on the flight path so it's on the list to investigate

RetLT June 11th, 2018 11:58 AM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
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My son showed me how to do this. They are attached

WilliamB June 11th, 2018 06:20 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
I have had this happen a number of times too. The aircraft continue straight across the map instead of making a turn to exit where I want them too. Have had several planes shot down as a result.

DRG June 11th, 2018 06:43 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
OK, thanks. It's on the list to investigate. It may mean no more " targets of opportunity " as that seems to be what's interrupting the flight plan but we'll see..... that may not be necessary but I have never really liked the wide variation between the flight path and the angle of fire that resulted from allowing targets of opportunity

Suhiir June 11th, 2018 07:06 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
Chiming in.

From my experience it seems that if aircraft do hit a target of opportunity they "forget" their exit orders and just proceed to the opposite side of the map.

jp10 June 11th, 2018 08:15 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 842298)
OK, thanks. It's on the list to investigate. It may mean no more " targets of opportunity " as that seems to be what's interrupting the flight plan but we'll see..... that may not be necessary but I have never really liked the wide variation between the flight path and the angle of fire that resulted from allowing targets of opportunity


Could that also remove some game realism by eliminating the chances of an airstrike hitting your own units? Airstrikes near troops is still tricky with modern ordnance. I would like to see that factor stay in the game.

RetLT June 11th, 2018 11:00 PM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
I have no problem with the strike aircraft choosing its target. If it does this before it enters the map it could still attack in a straight line and follow its exit orders.

I don't know what the mechanics of target selection is but this would seem to solve the problem and keep the realism too.

Thank you for looking into this and all the other little quirks people have found. The post release support for this game is unmatched.

Wdll June 21st, 2018 05:50 AM

Re: Strike aircraft not following exit orders
 
I don't know if this is already part of the code or not, but if it is not, perhaps planes could have two cones of view/path. So they always follow their ordered path and with that limit, they only attack targets of opportunity if it does not take them out of their path.


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