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Karagin July 24th, 2020 04:54 PM

Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Unit 880 in Italy OOB is showing the incorrect icon. All it shows is single turret, yet unit is listed as an aircaft.

Pibwl July 24th, 2020 06:06 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
I guess, this is a problem in Mobhack only? In game's encyclopedia there is an icon (I haven't checked how it shows on board).
The same for newly added floatplanes like Ar 196 and Canadian Douglas Digby.

DRG July 24th, 2020 07:25 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
SHOWS A TURRET WHERE ????

Not in my game or mobhACK

https://i.imgur.com/BT0Bbdj.png

https://i.imgur.com/1LyoOht.png

https://i.imgur.com/qIOn3F7.png

And that is the same as that in the master game AND the one I use to test patch installers so if either of you are seeing weird icons It is YOUR copy of game that's the problem.....

troopie July 24th, 2020 07:30 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
It's has an icon in my game. I just bought it.

troopie

DRG July 24th, 2020 07:36 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pibwl (Post 848094)
I guess, this is a problem in Mobhack only? In game's encyclopedia there is an icon (I haven't checked how it shows on board).
The same for newly added floatplanes like Ar 196 and Canadian Douglas Digby.



"In game's encyclopedia there is an icon"...... means you see that 108 Icon in the game....... yes?.....had I known you could not see it in your MOBHack would have been the clue I needed to shave about 2 hours off this little mystery

Karagin July 24th, 2020 08:50 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
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Attached is the picture to show what I am speaking of, and the game DRG is up to date with the lasted patch and nothing has been touched in the MOB files.

Note the short cut down towards the lower-left corner, it's the one that says winSPWW2 v10...

Karagin July 24th, 2020 08:55 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
SPOB34 Itlay Version March 2020(C)2020 Edward R. Mortimer & The Camo Workshop that would the up to date version since I bought the game and installed the v10 patch for winSPWW2 as y'all said to do...

DRG July 24th, 2020 09:17 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
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{19721, -1}, //8405 Piaggio P.108 ******NEW winSPWW2 V13

Icon 8405 is in Icon0197.shp and is a "single hull" Icon file and there are NO turreted icon in that file and there NEVER HAS BEEN . I have NO idea if you have installed any third party mods either way what you have for Icon0197.shp is NOT the correct file so you may have installed the patches but something has gone wrong with your copy and you need to re-install that last patch at the very least. My OOB's show the same info you posted but that file you have that is showing the turret for 8405 IS NOT the correct one and that is why it shows the turret. What I posted is what I see and Troopie as well it seems


THIS is the content in Icon0197.shp

https://i.imgur.com/Shw9uEb.png

and it is attached


Did you install your patch from Shrapnel or a mirror site ?

PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL THE ICONS BOTH Karagin AND Pibwl CLAIM ARE BORKED ARE IN THAT FILE.

DRG July 24th, 2020 09:38 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 848098)
Attached is the picture to show what I am speaking of, and the game DRG is up to date with the lasted patch and nothing has been touched in the MOB files.

Note the short cut down towards the lower-left corner, it's the one that says winSPWW2 v10...


There is no "short cut down towards the lower-left corner" image showing on the forums BUT if you are trying to run a game patched to V13 with a V10 EXE then THAT is the problem and why you are seeing what you are seeing.

DRG July 24th, 2020 09:51 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Here is the explanation

Below is the Icon list for 197..........NOTE "These Icon slots will only show up in the game with an EXE built after Ver12"

Your game should show this.......

https://i.imgur.com/PN1nsZp.png

// Icon0197.shp - H Changed to Icon0197.shp in code and in MasterIcon list April 2019-- DRG --These Icon slots will only show up in the game with an EXE built after Ver12

{19700, -1}, //8384 He-115 Germany-Blue OOB ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19701, -1}, //8385 He-60 Germany -Blue OOB ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19702, -1}, //8386 He-60 Bulgaria ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19703, -1}, //8387 He-60 Nat Spain ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19704, -1}, //8388 He-114 Germany -Blue OOB ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19705, -1}, //8389 He-114 Nat Spain ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19706, -1}, //8390 He-114 Spain ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19707, -1}, //8391 He-114 Romania ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19708, -1}, //8392 He-114 Romania Late ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19709, -1}, //8393 He-114 Sweden ( S 12 ) ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19710, -1}, //8394 Arado Ar-196 Germany ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19711, -1}, //8395 Arado Ar-196 Bulgaria ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19712, -1}, //8396 Arado Ar-196 Finland ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19713, -1}, //8397 Arado Ar-196 Romania ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19714, -1}, //8398 Arado Ar-196 Romania Late ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19715, -1}, //8399 Arado Ar-196 Monsun Gruppe / Japanese Markings******NEW winSPWW2 V13-Blue OOB
{19716, -1}, //8400 Ju 52/3m Bulgaria Early markings******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19717, -1}, //8401 Ju 52/3m Bulgaria Late markings ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19718, -1}, //8402 Douglas Digby RCAF ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19719, -1}, //8403 Lysander PTO ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19720, -1}, //8404 Lysander Desert ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19721, -1}, //8405 Piaggio P.108 ******NEW winSPWW2 V13
{19722, -1}, //8406 Ju-87- RSI ******NEW winSPWW2 V13


If the game is played with a version of the game.EXE < V13 they will show in the manner you describe

https://i.imgur.com/64gL4rl.png

If the only EXE you have in you game files shows V10 when run then you need to run the latest consolodator patch again. If you are deliberatly running an old version then this is what happens

Karagin July 24th, 2020 10:24 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
I am not running an older version, I updated to the patch after you guys told me the newly bought game didn't come with the patch update. I have installed NOTHING new to winSPWW2 other than your Tannenberg Line scenario and some maps.

The bottom of the main splash screen says WinSPWW2 v13-CD in green and yellow.

MOBHACK is showing the turret icon, the game shows the correct one. I pointing out the issue in MOBHACK.

Karagin July 24th, 2020 10:29 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Everything came from this site. Fresh install, not a write over or anything else. I bought the game fresh, installed it, then when I found out new patch was needed, thanks you guys, I downloaded it from here, and installed it. I have a non-modded copy of both games so to avoid issues. I believe that was suggest by some around here at one point.

Again the issue is in MOBHACK, the game shows the correct icon.

Karagin July 24th, 2020 10:40 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
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The short (circled in white) is the one that I have to access the game, it goes to the folder with the game patched to the v13 update.

Again, no third party mods, no mods of mine done to the Italian OB. I only ran across this because I was doing a count of who had booby traps, so I would not need to jump nations.

I will update it to the icon file you gave.

DRG July 24th, 2020 10:49 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 848105)
The short (circled in white) is the one that I have to access the game, it goes to the folder with the game patched to the v13 update.

Again, no third party mods, no mods of mine done to the Italian OB. I only ran across this because I was doing a count of who had booby traps, so I would not need to jump nations.

I will update it to the icon file you gave.


Don't bother. You already have that file that is why it is showing up in the game but it shows up OK in my MOBHack.

It would have been easier if it had been clear from the start the issue was MOBHack or the game. When you wrote " it's the one that says winSPWW2 v10.." I had NO IDEA that was MOBHack because the current version of MOBHack is V5 "V10" is a game version number

DRG July 24th, 2020 10:56 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
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I finally sorted out the problem and why it's not been caught by other players..... MOBHack was updated with these changes but it didn't make it into the patch folder. Most people don't use MOBHack and the one I use works so it all looked OK to me and from the start I thought this was a game issue and that's where I was looking

The correct MOBHack is attached and I will add it to the patch thread as well and ensure it gets into the next update.

You will see the Icons corretly in MOBHack using this version ( 5.0 April 2019)

Karagin July 24th, 2020 11:14 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Cool. Again thank you for the help.

Karagin July 24th, 2020 11:15 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
And next time I won't post from my phone.

scorpio_rocks July 25th, 2020 04:41 AM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 848107)
The correct MOBHack is attached and I will add it to the patch thread as well and ensure it gets into the next update.

You will see the Icons corretly in MOBHack using this version ( 5.0 April 2019)


Thanks Yes that sorted it :)

Pibwl July 25th, 2020 02:44 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 848097)

"In game's encyclopedia there is an icon"...... means you see that 108 Icon in the game....... yes?.....had I known you could not see it in your MOBHack would have been the clue I needed to shave about 2 hours off this little mystery

I'd have had made it clearer, but I was convinced that everyone sees in Mobhack the same what I do...

DRG July 25th, 2020 02:57 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pibwl (Post 848116)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 848097)

"In game's encyclopedia there is an icon"...... means you see that 108 Icon in the game....... yes?.....had I known you could not see it in your MOBHack would have been the clue I needed to shave about 2 hours off this little mystery

I'd have had made it clearer, but I was convinced that everyone sees in Mobhack the same what I do...

If I had seen what you saw then for sure the V5 MOBHack would have been put into the patch but it was built months before I had set up the patch folder and it was missed because by the time the patch folder was built that change was long in the past and like you " was convinced that everyone sees in Mobhack the same what I do" and I didn't think to check that a few obscure aircraft could be seen with my "virgin" patch game MOBHack but as I recall I did do a quick check with the game

Considering the number of files I put into a patch every year it's no surprise I eventually missed something

BUT if someone had said " I see a turret when I view the unit in MOBHack but it's an aircraft in the game" it would have saved me a LOT of wasted effort chasing down false leads because from the very start I thought this was about a problem seen in the game

scorpio_rocks July 25th, 2020 08:38 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Just a quick double-check:
Is this also an issue with MBT? (or was it included/different version of Mobhack/not needed)

DRG July 26th, 2020 06:39 AM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks (Post 848118)
Just a quick double-check:
Is this also an issue with MBT? (or was it included/different version of Mobhack/not needed)


No. It was just a slight code change in WW2 to correct a "double booking" of a series of numbers assigning Icon slots.

Pibwl July 26th, 2020 08:40 AM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
[quote=DRG;848117][quote=Pibwl;848116]
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 848097)


If I had seen what you saw then for sure the V5 MOBHack would have been put into the patch but it was built months before I had set up the patch folder and it was missed because by the time the patch folder was built that change was long in the past and like you " was convinced that everyone sees in Mobhack the same what I do" and I didn't think to check that a few obscure aircraft could be seen with my "virgin" patch game MOBHack but as I recall I did do a quick check with the game

Considering the number of files I put into a patch every year it's no surprise I eventually missed something

Noone puts any blame on you - thank you for your efforts :) I only feel pity for your wasted time. I didn't start it, though I noticed the problem in Mobhack as well. I wanted to report it earlier, but there were correct icons in the game...

DRG July 26th, 2020 12:26 PM

Re: Piaggio P.108 in Italy OOB
 
Well, thanks but I'm the one responsible for getting the patches assembled correctly so this is on me.

It's solved now and I'm glad it was brought to light I just wish it had been more clear at the start. Though even then my first check would be with the MOBHack I use which is the correct one so it would have looked OK to me but with enough people saying " no..we see a turret in MOBHack" the light would have come on eventually :)

The up-to-date MOBHack as been posted and I have put it into my 2021 working files in it's own folder -named- " ADD TO NEXT PATCH SURE"


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