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DRG March 15th, 2023 02:32 AM

Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
Andy and I have noticed a difference in the way Pressing 8 ( reverse) works between our games so my question to everyone is this:

We expect that reversing a vehicle is only done occasionally and some players may never use it but for those that do use it do you simply press 8 and that will initiate the reverse sequence or do you find you have to hold the 8 key down until the vehicle reverses?

zovs66 March 15th, 2023 04:36 AM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
IIRC I just pressed it once and then wait, there is a slight delay.

Karagin March 15th, 2023 09:58 AM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
Same as zovs66, and for me, it's the same as I posted in the MBT thread on this, the vehicle moves back one hex at a time.

Mobhack March 15th, 2023 11:43 AM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
The slight delay is for the "XXX reversing.." message on the bottom message panel to be displayed.

I have now removed the delay for that so the process shoud be a tad quicker (a second less basically) on the next release.

What Don is wanting to find out is if any of you have a really long delay - several seconds or more, or perhaps need to mash the 8 key again. It seems to be something happening on his PC, but not on mine.

DRG March 15th, 2023 11:57 AM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
On my machine I HAVE TO hold the 8 key down until the vehicle reverses. I cannot just press then wait a second or so and it reverses

zovs66 March 15th, 2023 12:52 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
Interesting, now pressing 8 just does not work at all. Holding it or pressing '8' key. Nothing happens anymore ...

zovs66 March 15th, 2023 01:01 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
I just tried it on both v15 and v14 and no go, can no longer use the 8 key to reverse. Pressing it once or holding it down does nothing anynore.

DRG March 15th, 2023 03:11 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
WONDERFUL................ anyone else ??

Just curious which 8 key do you use.. the top row of the keyboard or the keypad ?

How long did you hold it down for ?? I have found sometimes second or two works but I have also seen it take 10+ seconds before it decided I was serious about this and reversed

DRG March 15th, 2023 03:46 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
I just had a similar experience with a tank.... I held the key down for 15 seconds and nothing..... I tried another tank and got reverse in a couple of seconds.. BOTH tanks had not moved so it was not because I did not have movement points

weird. Obviously, this "needs to be fixed" but Andy just presses the key and after a slight delay it reverses....... he cannot debug something that works perfectly for him

....and I just tried another tanks and after three quick presses it reversed........... (grumble)

Just tried another and it took 12 seconds of holding the key down before it reversed

It's "nice to know" I'm not the only one but... NOT REALLY

zovs66 March 15th, 2023 04:02 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 854016)
WONDERFUL................ anyone else ??

Just curious which 8 key do you use.. the top row of the keyboard or the keypad ?

How long did you hold it down for ?? I have found sometimes second or two works but I have also seen it take 10+ seconds before it decided I was serious about this and reversed

Yes the top row of the key board. I held it do the tank reversed (or I saw the message ... reversing), guess it was 2-4 seconds ?

zovs66 March 15th, 2023 04:04 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
the rest of the time the tanks simply refused to reverse but no messages, no indications of why it did not do it. I say for 30 seconds on one tank and just gave up. Like you then the next tank, 2 seconds and backed up, then the next tank nothing nada ???

Mobhack March 15th, 2023 04:22 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
WEll, if it hasnt got enough points to reverse (it costs several times the forward speed) - say there is a wood or rough behind it, then it wont budge. However there is then a message played at the bottom of the screen "XX cannot reverse" or somesuch when it has insufficient MP to do so.

Have you been watching the black message window 9at the bottom of the screen) for these messages?

DRG March 15th, 2023 04:29 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
I have been and when I see it I stop pressing the button and there IS a message the reports when you do not have the MP to reverse but there is no indication that because you have trees or rough behind you you cannot AND I have been starting with examples that have not moved

Just restarted a game and tried to back up a T-55S and it did.....on the forth press of the button and it was not just a quick tap.. it was a one second hold and it was clear terrain. I just reversed another one but it took four increasingly longer holds on the 8 key before it took the hint and it was clear terrain behind the vehicle and had not moved before this

Lancer March 24th, 2023 04:59 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
I use the top of the keyboard and simply tap 8. Tank will move one hex and stop. (after the slight delay for the reversing message) If I hold the 8 down tank will move more than one hex but with the slight delay for the message between hexes.

Dion March 25th, 2023 03:29 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
No problems here. Though I remember it was abnormally slow. Couldn't tell if it was the hot key or my computer, but in the end it worked, I just had to wait for it. Seems to work OK, just sluggish.

Mobhack March 25th, 2023 05:16 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
I removed the 1 second message delay on reversing, so the string should appear while it is in the reverse and not pause and wait for you to read it, once the new EXE is released.

georgesedlak April 26th, 2023 03:45 PM

Re: Vehicle reverse ( 8 key) question for all players
 
Same as zovs66.


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