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construct April 24th, 2002 09:03 AM

Population Modifiers ?
 
How does this stuff working and what is this about ?

i found some lines in settings.

Number Of Population Modifiers := 12
Pop Modifier 1 Population Amount := 99
Pop Modifier 1 Production Modifier Percent := 100
Pop Modifier 1 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 100
Pop Modifier 2 Population Amount := 499
Pop Modifier 2 Production Modifier Percent := 105
Pop Modifier 2 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 105
Pop Modifier 3 Population Amount := 999
Pop Modifier 3 Production Modifier Percent := 110
Pop Modifier 3 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 110
Pop Modifier 4 Population Amount := 1999
Pop Modifier 4 Production Modifier Percent := 120
Pop Modifier 4 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 120
Pop Modifier 5 Population Amount := 2999
Pop Modifier 5 Production Modifier Percent := 130
Pop Modifier 5 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 130
Pop Modifier 6 Population Amount := 3999
Pop Modifier 6 Production Modifier Percent := 140
Pop Modifier 6 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 140
Pop Modifier 7 Population Amount := 4999
Pop Modifier 7 Production Modifier Percent := 150
Pop Modifier 7 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 150
Pop Modifier 8 Population Amount := 5999
Pop Modifier 8 Production Modifier Percent := 160
Pop Modifier 8 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 160
Pop Modifier 9 Population Amount := 6999
Pop Modifier 9 Production Modifier Percent := 170
Pop Modifier 9 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 170
Pop Modifier 10 Population Amount := 7999
Pop Modifier 10 Production Modifier Percent := 180
Pop Modifier 10 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 180
Pop Modifier 11 Population Amount := 9999
Pop Modifier 11 Production Modifier Percent := 190
Pop Modifier 11 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 190
Pop Modifier 12 Population Amount := 2000000
Pop Modifier 12 Production Modifier Percent := 200
Pop Modifier 12 SY Rate Modifier Percent := 200

i hope someone can help me out to get this on the road.

PDF April 24th, 2002 09:30 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Arf, look at my yesterday's thread "comments and rumblings from a new player", the highest authorities here discussed just that point http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

In a nutshell, each set of 3 lines says :
Line 1 = nr of pop for following effect to occur
line 2 = % modifier of resources prod for that nr of pop
line 3 = % modifier for Startyards construction rate for that nr of pop
At first the count of modifier is given to the program.
So in unmodded game there are 12 "levels", with 0-99 M people giving 100%/100% modifier, and 10 B+ pop giving 200%/200%

These numbers are highly unrealistic-looking, and are modified in some mods, say Proportions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

construct April 24th, 2002 09:55 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
thanxs again
thats why i like these game because of the community one little question more :-)
how is it working for billion ? ( dont really now what these is in german )
100 M = 1B ?
1000 M = 1B ?

txs and greets

construct

PDF April 24th, 2002 10:27 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by construct:
thanxs again
thats why i like these game because of the community one little question more :-)
how is it working for billion ? ( dont really now what these is in german )
100 M = 1B ?
1000 M = 1B ?

txs and greets

construct
<hr></blockquote>

Well, for me 1 Billion = 1000 M, but well I'm French so in fact 1000 M is a "Milliard" ... What do Englishmen think of that ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

construct April 24th, 2002 12:18 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
txs again

Star Trek Expansion Mod

Status : Alpha
Version : 0.04a

greets

construct

dogscoff April 24th, 2002 12:29 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
in fact 1000 M is a "Milliard" ... What do Englishmen think of that ?
<hr></blockquote>

Just about all British ppl study a few years of basic French, so we are all aware that you have a crazy numbering system:

"sixty eight, sixty nine, sixty ten, sixty eleven..."

"sixty-eighteen, sixty-nineteen, four-twenty. Four-twenty-one, Four-twenty-two..."

PDF April 24th, 2002 02:08 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dogscoff:
Oh yeah, the election, I forgot about that.

If Le Pen wins I think there will be trouble for France- both internally and internationally.
<hr></blockquote>

I try to forgot about that ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Personnally I voted Green, they are somewhat funny but at least have ideas ...
There's fortunately no chance that fascist Le Pen might win http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif , but if it were the case I'll leave this country !

About our numbering system, may I point the fact that Englishmen still measure in feet (not heads http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )and miles, use pounds, and drive left (that's very dangerous ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

That's ridiculous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ! And moreover I can write english, can you say the reverse ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 02:24 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
oui, je peux écrire français bien que ma grammaire ne soit pas bonne

dogscoff April 24th, 2002 03:02 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
moreover I can write english, can you say the reverse ?
<hr></blockquote>

Biensur! Mais excusez- moi la manque d'accents (Il n'y en a rien sur mon clavier=-)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
may I point the fact that Englishmen still measure in feet (not heads )
<hr></blockquote>
Non, nous travaillons en metrique depuis plusieurs annees. Nos inginieurs utilisent les metres et nos supermarches les kilos. Ceux qui ne le font pas seront punis!

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
and miles,
<hr></blockquote>
Oui, mais ils sont preferables au kilometres: C'est plus facile a dire quand on a trop bu.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
use pounds,
<hr></blockquote>
Oui, je ne sais pas le defendre. Si un pays aussi conscient de sa propre identite que la France peut se somettre a la monnaie unique, nous en pouvons aussi.

Cependent, de mon avis les francais ont adopte l'Euro seulement pour irriter les americains=-)

Notre probleme ici dans le Royaume Unis est que nous ne pouvons pas decider si nous sommes plus proche aux cultures Europeans ou a la "culture" americain. On voie qu'aux Etats Unis ils parlent (presque) la meme langue que nous et on ne peut que se familiarise avec son maniere de vie universellement exporte. Donc il est facile a immaginer qu'ils sont le meme que nous, mais ce n'est pas vrai.

J'ai habite en France et en Italie et pour moi c'est clair que nous (les anglais) avons beaucoup plus en commun avec eux. Il y seulement l'obstacle de langue.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
and drive left (that's very dangerous ! )
<hr></blockquote>
En fait, ceux qui conduisent a la gauche sont la majorite! Seulement les americains et quelques pays en Europe sont au droit. L'asie, L'australie, L'amerique de Sud et l'Afrique sont de notre cote=-)

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[ 24 April 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]</p>

PDF April 24th, 2002 03:09 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Eh eh, non seulement le thread devient OT (well, we don't have translations for Internet words !) mais maintenant il est en français !
Merci à tous, je vois que je suis sur un forum de gens intelligents et cultivés http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Est-ce que les Anglais sont plus proches des Français que des Américains ? Hum, rappellez-vous que finalement ce sont des Anglais qui ont fondé les Etats-Unis ...et en ont chassé les Français ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

And well, what about SE4 ? Do you feel rather Terran or EEE ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

dogscoff April 24th, 2002 03:50 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Eh eh, non seulement le thread devient OT (well, we don't have translations for Internet words !) mais maintenant il est en français !<hr></blockquote>
Ce n'est pas le premier fois:
coin des francophones

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
Merci à tous, je vois que je suis sur un forum de gens intelligents et cultivés
Est-ce que les Anglais sont plus proches des Français que des Américains ?
Hum, rappellez-vous que finalement ce sont des Anglais qui ont fondé les Etats-Unis
<hr></blockquote>
Et les Italians, les Irlandaise, les Chinois, les Mexicaines, les Francais et tous
les autres pays du monde qui l'ont populé. Ils ont leur propre culture maintenent qui
ne resemble pas a aucun autre du monde. Peut-etre c'est pour ca qu'ils essaient a nous
assimiler=-)

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
...et en ont chassé les Français !
<hr></blockquote>
Est-ce qu'il y a aucun pays sur cette planete avec qui les anglais n'ont pas disputé le territoire?


<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
And well, what about SE4 ? Do you feel rather Terran or EEE ?
<hr></blockquote>
Haven't you seen the picture in my sig? I'm a Viking, mate.

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 03:52 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dogscoff:
Haven't you seen the picture in my sig? I'm a Viking, mate.<hr></blockquote>

Actually, being half Swedish, a quarter Norwegian and a quarter Esel, I should take offence at goatee clad dorsetmen proclaiming to be vikings!!

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 04:11 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Je dirait que le principal obstacles est le français régime et manque de asttractive français femmes

dogscoff April 24th, 2002 04:14 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>I should take offence at goatee clad dorsetmen proclaiming to be vikings!!<hr></blockquote>

I'm sure I could think of a few good counters to any balding Mancunian claims to furry tiggahood, too=-)

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 04:19 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Right, that's it, Dogscoff, I am coming down to Bournemouth to give you a damn good punch on the bottom

I AM NOT MANCUNIAN - I am a southern boy from Kent, the Alabama of England and home of the free, land of the brave and god's own earth

I am up here in t'north ONLY because (a) my wife is from a rich Cheshire family and one has to go where the cash is and (b)the local lads are so scraggy the local totty marries southerners - the ex-pat community up here is staggering

PDF April 24th, 2002 04:23 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Je dirait que le principal obstacles est le français régime et manque de asttractive français femmes<hr></blockquote>

Obstacle à quoi ??
And what do you mean by "régime" ? Diet or government ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 04:33 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
I meant 'diet' as in what you mange but my french grammar is not good enough to get that right

C'vrai about the francais femmes tho

dogscoff April 24th, 2002 04:40 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
And what do you mean by "régime" ? Diet or government ?
<hr></blockquote>

Both Chirac *and* Le pen could stand to lose a few pounds. I mean kilograms...

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
Right, that's it, Dogscoff, I am coming down to Bournemouth to give you a damn good punch on the bottom
<hr></blockquote>

heh, you'll have to get past my Valkyrie bodyguard.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
I AM NOT MANCUNIAN - I am a southern boy from Kent, the Alabama of England
<hr></blockquote>

*Dogscoff hums the "duelling banjos" tune...

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
I am up here in t'north ONLY because (a) my wife is from a rich Cheshire family and one has to go where the cash is and (b)the local lads are so scraggy the local totty marries southerners - the ex-pat community up here is staggering
<hr></blockquote>

Heh, ok ok, calm down. Perhaps you should change your profile to read something like "Manchester (reluctantly)"

[ 24 April 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]</p>

PDF April 24th, 2002 04:55 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Dogscoff, I saw your Valkyrie, I now understand why you find French women unattractive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif but can't grasp why you want us French to lose weight ...
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dogscoff April 24th, 2002 05:01 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>we don't have translations for Internet words <hr></blockquote>translated net glossary.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
I now understand why you find French women unattractive <hr></blockquote>

Hey, that was 'Tigga complaining about French Women. If I could do so without my Valkyrie bodyguard kicking my scawny arse, I'd say some very complimentary things about French women...

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 05:11 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Actually, I am being unfair to les beau français filles

The more I think about it, Sophie Marceau, Vanessa Paradis, Laetitia Casta (turbo-grrrrr), Catherine DeNeuve, Brigitte Bardot, Ursula Andress etc

Yep, ok, the French lasses are good for a knee trembler with a cold wind blowing of the Baltic on your backside!!

As for the Valkyries, reminds me of a mate of mine's girlfriend, femenine thing who's nickname was 'Beerpig'

PDF April 24th, 2002 05:20 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Arf, actually Ursula Andress isn't quite French http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif !!
But we also have Marguerite Duras ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Growltigga April 24th, 2002 05:25 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
and we have Miriam Margoyles and/or Anne Widdicombe

great actress and mp respectively but they are, as we say in Kent, each a wolftrap

Loser April 24th, 2002 05:26 PM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
You know, on this side of the Atlantic at least, four-twenty refers to something altogether separate from toe-crazed, pre-Roman, Gaulic, base-20 numbering scemes. But that's probably a discussion for a completely differnet sort of message board...

[ 24 April 2002: Message edited by: Loser ]</p>

dumbluck April 25th, 2002 01:43 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Boy, now I'm glad I didn't take french in school...

So, PDF, who did you vote for? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

dogscoff April 25th, 2002 01:49 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
Oh yeah, the election, I forgot about that.

If Le Pen wins I think there will be trouble for France- both internally and internationally.

oleg April 25th, 2002 04:36 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dogscoff:
Oh yeah, the election, I forgot about that.

If Le Pen wins I think there will be trouble for France- both internally and internationally.
<hr></blockquote>

We shall all pray for Le Pen victory.
He promised to expel

Patric Viera
Marcel Desaily
Zinadine Zidane
Sylvian Wiltort
Thierry Henry
Lilian Thuram
Christian Karembeu
Yuri Yorkaeff
and whole Fulham team

That shall give rest of the World the fighting chance, providing somebody would take care of Argentina.

oleg April 25th, 2002 04:41 AM

Re: Population Modifiers ?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by PDF:
Arf, actually Ursula Andress isn't quite French http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif !!
<hr></blockquote>

Yeah, sure. Next thing you say she is Swedish..
Give us a break. Whoops, was not it Ulrika Jonsson ? Never mind.

[ 25 April 2002: Message edited by: oleg ]</p>


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