Newbie needs help
 

Hey everyone, I just got SE4G and its great, but I have a few quick questions. ABout the ring and sphere worlds, I'm still confused about how to build them. ALso, what exactly are they, what are there abilities, is it like building a new planet?
Oh, and any general tips for a begginer?

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Ring and sphere worlds are really, really big planets.

To build them, you need:
-high levels of Stellar Manipulation
-the Starbase
-cruiser class or higher ships

Build one starbase with the Generator component (AT THE STAR, so you must use construction ships). Then build 5 (10 for a sphere) plating starbases and 5 (10 for a sphere) cable starbases. You might want to use multiple construction ships, otherwise this will take a very long time.

Phoenix-D

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Ok, so the (Dyson) Sphere is nothing more than a really big planet? It gets no other advantages even though its built around a star. oh and which one is better to build around a star, and can a star still go nova if you build one?

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They have about 5 or 10 times the normal facility space of a planet. Now fill it up with weapon platforms and i want to see how you conquer it...

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"Ok, so the (Dyson) Sphere is nothing more than a really big planet?"

Really big planet is something of an understatement. A sphere is something like the size of *20* large planets! Over 100 facility slots, 20+ billion population max, massive amounts of cargo space..

Phoenix-D

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>which one is better to build around a star <hr></blockquote>

the Sphere will give you twice the room and max population than the ringworld. However It takes almost twice as long to build. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>can a star still go nova if you build one? <hr></blockquote>

I really don't know... anybody out there ever have such a star go nova?

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I have not, however it stands to reason that an unstable star is an unstable star, regardless of what might be near or around it.

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Yes, but that would be using Real World Logic.

In other words, in SE4 that isn't the case. The star can't go supernova within a ring or sphereworld.

Phoenix-D

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So, if you come across an unstable star, just build an RW around it and you're good to go?

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You're good to go period actually. As far as I can tell, that partiular ability doesn't DO anything.

Phoenix-D

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RW and SW are massive undertakings. Before you begin to build one be sure that you have sufficant storage of Minerals, Organics, and Radioactives.

Before I build one, I colonize at least 10 planets with 24 or greater facility capacity and then build nothing but storage facilities for each of the three minerals.

The normal time to build a RW is about 100 turns unless you use mulitiple construction ships. Those ships will cost a lot to maintain, so be sure that they have quatum reactors and your have sufficant stored resorces to sustain them.

SW take about 200 turns normally to create.

Once they are done, you will have a jewel for your imperial crown like the which the galaxy has never seen. Best of luck.

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Just in case somebody is interested, a while ago I posted a map containing a sphere world and six
ringworlds. I hid these worlds (cloaked them) so that they were not usable until you had the necessary tech to find them. My objective was to keep them from play until later in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Below is the link:

1019538206.zip

P.s. I hid a few other goodies around the map. See what you can find! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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"Those ships will cost a lot to maintain, so be sure that they have quatum reactors and your have sufficant stored resorces to sustain them."

Uhh.. WHAT? Don't bother with quantum reactors, either on the construction ships or the starbases. The starbases don't need supply and will never run out anyway; the construction ships don't use supply except getting there, and if you're building in a secure location they shouldn't run out of supplies before they arrive.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Just in case somebody is interested, a while ago I posted a map containing a sphere world and six
ringworlds. I hid these worlds (cloaked them) so that they were not usable until you had the necessary tech to find them. My objective was to keep them from play until later in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Below is the link:

1019538206.zip

P.s. I hid a few other goodies around the map. See what you can find! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

I played a game with this map and could not figure out why my ministered colony ships kept trying to colonize empty space. Now I know, the AI can see the planets, even though I cannot.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> I played a game with this map and could not figure out why my ministered colony ships kept trying to colonize empty space. Now I know, the AI can see the planets, even though I cannot.

<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, Didn't notice this effect since I rarely
set that minister on...

It makes me wonder what else the computer can see that we can't! I wonder if the computer would have seen it if I had just hidden it in a storm?

Let me know if you see anything else interesting!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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A ring or spere world lets your star loose all its abilities. In a single star system e.g. you cannot build or destroy planets any more (annoying), you cannot use solar panels, create system nebulaes, use several crystalline facilities, nothing will be possible which needs a star in the system. Make sure to build planets out of your asteroids before finishing a sphere.