Important notice for PBW Users.
 

The PBW server move is expected to take place Monday May 6th.

Saturday May 4th (Tomorrow!) at some time during the day, can't be more specific, we will be taking it down for up to a few hours for some final preparations. It will come back up on Saturday sometime and should be available all day Sunday for Last minute game playing.

Then on Momday some time it will be going down and will be down for a few days, possibly as long as a week.

Sometime tonight I will be turning off the automatic turn processing. Turns will still process when all players upload or if manually forced to run by the game owner, but will not process due to turn timeout. I will leave this off unitl a few days after the server is back up and running in the new location to make sure nobody loses their turn due to the server being down.

PBW Admin Team

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AHHHHHHHH NOOOO- the pain, the agony ...

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I have now turned off the Automatic turn processing. As I said before, turns will still process if all players upload, and can be processed manually by the game owner if her wishes to. But they will not run becasue the time limit is reached and not everyone has uploaded.

Geoschmo

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Thanks for the info about PBW. Hope the move goes smoothly. Please keep us informed.

By the way, <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Then on Momday <hr></blockquote> What day is that??????? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif J/K Whookid no foniks werkd 4 mme tew. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Mother's Day is Sunday May 12.

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Oh. I guess I am a rotten sun for not knowing that then huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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No, you're just mentally disciplined enough to ignore all the hype from the greeting card, gift, and flower industries. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

(I had to look at the Calendar to verify the date myself.)

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Yes, I am not really sure what is happeing exactly at this moment. Obviously the server did not get taken down as scheduled. Something must have come up at the current data center.

I will let you know when I know.

Geoschmo

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Ok, I spoke with Admiral. The shutdown was pushed back. Should happen some time this afternoon/evening.

Geoschmo

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So, uh, whatever happened to shutting down the server on the 6th?? It was still up when I checked approximately 45 seconds ago... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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It's, it's, it's down!

Now, where is that gun of mine?

Ah, here it is . . click, click, clickclickclick
Dammit!

Anyone out there got bullets for a 30-06?

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Damn, just as I was about to die. I'm hanging on with two small colony planets. Lucky for me the aggressor didn't antisipate a large minefield surrounding my Last stand, PBW goes down while I'm on the edge of my seat! Of course this allows me to think of some devilish Strategy to completely rule the galexy!! LOL

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Hi All

The server went down about 1800 on the 7th. What is the current estimate of when it will be back up?

Does anyone know where its past and future homes are?

Henry

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Est time of return May 14th, 1800 hrs. (Edit: Not the YEAR 1800. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Previous home. NY, USA

New home. OH, USA

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Server is now in transit from New York to Ohio via US Postal Service.

Let us hope for no pipe bombs and anthrax enroute.

Cheers,

Admiral

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I'm going into withdrawal....

MUST...HAVE...PBW...FIX!

(convulsions)

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Ok, please be kind as I am inexperienced at PBW (on my first game) and generally am so unfocussed on technology that I think ATMs are run by little dwarfs who sit inside handing out money

First, I presume the server moving means that the PBW game I am involved in is on hold, which means I wont be receiving any new turns and wouldn't be able to uipload them if I did.

Secondly, why is everything ending up in Ohio? is it the epicentre of some localised high gravitational field pulling everything into it? half the forum seem to come from Ohio (or Pheonix AZ), what on earth is the deal? us Brits are always told that Ohio is the cloaco maxima of the central US? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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LOL.

I have a theory about that GT. You see, (And this comes from a 25 year resident) Ohio weather is just hideous. It's not uncommon in the spring to have 75 degrees days followed by ice storms 24 hours later. Standard meteorological analysis holds no weight when predicting weather in Ohio. Your typical five day forcast, in most places a pretty good predictor of upcoming weather, is not much more reliable in Ohio than the Farmers Almanac published four times a year. All this makes planning any kind of outdoor activity a little dicey.

Throw in the fact that Ohio is just about the most FREAKING BORING PLACE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, and you see why people get very involved in the internet around here. Well that and cow tipping, but that's another story. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ 09 May 2002, 14:01: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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GT, Ohio is the realm of the unknown, especially with the weather as Geo has put forth in his ascertation. What better place to absorb all the fundamentals of game play. We have Cedar Point, Kings Island, and Geauga Lake for R&R for those who need to get away from the stress of every day gaming. In relation to PBW games I would render an opinion that the hosts of this miracle of interactive play, over the course of time most definitly deserve some R&R at prime locations within their respective areas, (especially after putting up with some of us computer illiterates and our numerous questions) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif However, your question does inflict the possiblity of some research into this particular area, therefore, I shall endeavor to pass this along to those colleges within our domain in order to get an unbiased, neutral opinion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

just some ideas mac

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Mac, I didn't understand a lot of your post - are you saying Ohio has some nice bits? I was always under the impression that it was not the most attractive place but was vibrant and busy - a bit like a dead dog lying on an anthill, just without the charm.

Hmmm, I have spent quite a bit of time in the US -I like New Orleans, Savannah, Atlanta (d'em Southern girls!!), Houston, Tucson, Boston, Portland and I love San Fransisco - Cleveland? just doesn't have the same allure as these other places

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Houston has allure?

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Well, one day, let me tell you what I got up to in Houston

no wonder my hair all fell out

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, Ohio is a crossroads in many ways; that's part of why things end up here. It's a crossroads of urban and rural--unlike, say, California, which is either urban, desert, or national park, or Nebraska, where the word "urban" has no meaning. My own hometown (Toledo) is 1) the second-largest freshwater port in the US (by traffic volume) after Chicago; 2) home of the largest grain elevators in the world because of all the corn that comes through here; 3) a major railway hub for grain, coal, and cars, among other things; 4) the cross-point of the the most heavily-trafficked east-west highway in the US (I-80) and one of the most heavily-trafficked north-south highways (I-75); 5) 1 hour from Detroit, 2.5 from Cleveland, 3 from Cincinatti, 4 from Chicago, 5.5 from Pittsburgh.

Ohio's right in the center of everything, which of course makes us both a gravitational well [b]and[/a] a bit of a cloaca. But remember that a cloaca passes not only waste, but also new life.

Eric/LL

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Hey now, you people up there in Michigan may be Cloaca's, but don't be lumping us in with you.

Of course I have no idea what a Cloaca is, but if it passes waste, I wan't no part of it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Geoschmo

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"Of course I have no idea what a Cloaca is, but if it passes waste, I wan't no part of it."

A cloaca is a bird's Version of both bathroom ends. And "that other function" too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Phoenix-D

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hmmmmm, GT those cities you mention are all either out west or in the south except for Boston, I think you need to allievate some of your misconceptions of our great Midwest, come on, where else can you play baseball in sleet and snow come April, h... the lake doesn't even thaw out until May, you've never seen anything until you've seen polution seep up thru the ice on the lake and rivers with the sun's rays hitting and radiating it back into the atmosphere with all those different and unusual colors. And remember, Burke Lake Airport, which is on the Lake here in Cleveland, was built on top of a Land fill where they used to burn garbage... Brings back memories of when I was a kid and my dad used to drive past it on the way to Euclid Beach Park....the smoke and smells are beyond the ability to describe..

In reality, Ohio's not that bad a place to be, it does have many good points especially in the bouncing ba-ba-loos department http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh, sure, I'd expect they have plenty of fishing tackle shops. &lt; g, d, & r &gt;

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Hmmm.... as the token European on this particular post and English to boot, it would seem that even you damned yankees have differing views about Ohio vis a vis its contribution to the planet as a global heritage site.

The net conclusion is that it is a bit of a stinker, has an affinity to an amphibian's naughty bits and is a place with a stack of young fillies who are enhanced in the jubbly department (or is Mac just fantasizing again?)

Hmmm.. Mac, Boston is pseudo-European in ts outlook, as are many of the southern cities so it is only natural I would be attracted that way. I lived for 9 months in San Franscisco and liked it a lot, but then I was living wit my pop idol at the time and got use to seeing transvestities before breakfast

Conclusion - Madrid = great, Cleveland = yuk unless you like grain elevators

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If by "fishing tackle shops" you mean, sleezy porn stores, I whole-heartedly agree.

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Heh, actually GT the grain elevators are in Toledo, not Clevland. But what's 120 miles, er sorry 190 kilometers between friends. Roughly the distance fom London to Birmingham I think.

What you have to realize about Ohio is that it's hard to pin down. It varies so much from city to city, north to south, east to west. It's very much like a small Version of the United States in that respect.

I live in Southwest Ohio myself. Dayton. The home of the Wright Brothers. The ones that invented the Airplane, yeah that's them. Dayton is really just a large town that thinks it's a big city. It's kind of given us a complex I am afraid. We are like the shortest kid in the class that is always making noise just to be heard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

To me Cleveland might as well be New York City. But I am sure people in Cleveland would think that's crazy talk from some hick Northern-Kentuckyian. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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Damn...just now got the play on words.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You won't find any grain elevators in Cleveland. Even so, no there isn't much to like about Cleveland. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif As an Ohio resident myself I have to say that it's not really 'one' place. You've got the northern lake shore 'rust belt' area, you've got the mid-state 'boom-town' of Columbus (also the capital), you've got the southeastern 'Appalachia' region, and you've the more typical 'midwest' type regions in the west and southwest of the state. Cincinatti is more like a part of Kentucky than the rest of Ohio. And Toledo is a suburb of Detroit (it would be the second largest city in Michigan if it were to 'secede' and join Michigan...) It's a very diverse place. There aren't many states with as wide a variety of social and geographic conditions scattered so widely. Most states are heavily weighted towards one demographic/economic situation or another and have only small minorities of the others. Here we've got equal portions of industry and agriculture, urban and rural, etc.

I don't think the 'fillies' here are particularly well endowed. You'd want to go to California for that, where they have the highest proportion of women with artifical enhancements. The movie industry, ya know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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It would be nice if someone would create a thread for important information about the PBW status since this thread is certainly not it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Awww, you wet blanket. Let the people have their fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I mean really how many times can I updaate you that it's in a box on the way?

Geoschmo

P.S. Cool Avatar Bman. Almost hypnotic.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey, leave us out of Kentucky! We are nothing like that state. (I won't say all the bad things that I think, as to not alienate more of our friends.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

I'm amazed at how both of "my" cities are being referred to, here. I'm originally from Houston, TX, and I definitely prefer it to Ohio..

Geo, will the server be installed in a facility of yours, or did you just find a better hosting deal, here in Ohio?

Either way, if we ever play a "real-time" game, you'll have a significant ping advantage. ROFL..

--Ed

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As a Californian, the best thing I can say for Ohio is that I'd rather live in Ohio than Oklahoma http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey, Toledo is not a suburb of Detroit! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Of course, Toledo was nearly part of Michigan: the two states fought a war over it, and Ohio lost http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (Toledo was awarded to Ohio, but Michigan was given the entire UP, replete with its copper mines, in return). The greatest thing about Toledo is that it has a better zoo, better symphony, and better art museum than Detroit--and all without the crime rate!

And Geo, though I may live in Michigan, I'm an Ohioan at heart (not to mention still legally until July--had to file both MI and OH taxes this year. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Eric/LL

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You crazy Ohionians, I see you and your cars on my highways going to our lakes and our forests because you don't have any left. Well, at least not much.

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Is it possible to give an hourly update? There was a web site that would show second by second progress of aircraft. It would show a plane flying over a map and give airspeed and ETA. It was a nice graphic. I would love to follow the UPS van progress from NY to Ohio. Ohio BTW is Japanese for hello. Thank for all your help Geoschmo.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I believe it's Ohayo, and stands for Good Morning.

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I meant no disrespect. I lived in Japan off an on for Five years. Hello sounded like "ohio" and orange juice sounded like cow-do pissu donk. It's like they had a diffrent word for everything.

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Interesting, my snide remarks about Ohio has obviously triggered some deep-felt feelings amongst all you North Americans.

The general consensus again appears to be that it is not a particularily nice place to live, but that a fair chunk of you obviously have an affinity with the place.

There also appears to be quite pronounced bigotry dependant on whereabouts you live in the state.

Interesting, the base conclusion has to be to move out to California, the weather is better and the young ladies are all "enhanced"

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Yes can you give us the tracking number for the box so we can all watch its progress? The reason I asked for a real thread on PBW status was because everytime I comer here and see this thread has been updated, I get all excited and run to PBW to see if we are back up and am sadly dissapointed. These mood swings are bad for my health. Do not be surprised if I bring a lawsuit against you for it a few years from now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Relax Bman. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You should not be disapointed that PBW is still down. We told you it could be as much as a week.

If it's still down Tuesday morning, you have my permission to be disapointed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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Hey enough about Ohio already! My parents moved there, somewhere. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif
Well actually, I enjoy the summer family reunions. It sure beats the AZ heat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ohio is a pretty green place. I hear tell that it's a school holiday when the sun comes out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Ohio Happens????

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Gosh, Bman, since you're this eager, does this mean you'll stop being the Last one to take your turn three times out of five? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

You know what it is, Geo? Bman has finally figured out where on the starmap my own tiny, peaceful empire is located. And now he's just panting with eagerness to come and kick some monkey-butt...

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Allright Bman. Some real news finally.

I am probably going to regret telling you all this, but I have received the server, and it's in one piece.

I am still going to need a couple days to get it set up in the new location, so don't plan on being able to use PBW before Monday night sometime. But you can rest assured it didn't get lost in the mail at least. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ 10 May 2002, 17:28: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Actually, that depends on your location in the state as well. In the western, flatter areas of the state it gets pretty &lt;bleep&gt; hot in the summer, too, and there's lots of humidity to go with it. Which is worse? 100 degrees in the desert or 100 degrees in the swamp? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But do you also have winters that can go 20 below zero in Arizona? I don't think so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif In the eastern, especially northeastern parts of the state you get lake effect which means tons of snow in the winter and pretty much continual cloudiness even when something isn't falling. Most people probably know that the worst place in the country for lake effect snow is Buffalo, NY at the end of Lake Erie. Well, Pittsburgh and Cleveland aren't far behind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why are you surprised at the regional chauvinism? Isn't it the same, or even worse, in Europe? At least here there are highway driving distances between the 'divisions' of the populace. In Britain, and even in the denser cities of the US, there are neighborhoods that have distinct identities and hate each other. Now that's weird. People in the same city having 'cultural differences' with each other...

And I agree with Geo, Ohio is a nice enough place to live if you can deal with freakish weather. (Though it should be noted that the past decade has been especially freakish with the seasons getting all mishmashed...) It's just provincial and so rather difficult for 'visiting' types to stomach. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Three out of five is not too bad. The problem is it takes almost the full 48 hours in order to inspect each ship in my mindnumbingly vast armada individually and make sure there are no dissidents on board and to make sure that all the targetting computers know what a monkey looks like so they don't miss when they see one! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif