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Tnarg May 3rd, 2002 09:03 PM

Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
I'm just kind of gathering other peoples thoughts on what mod possess the most challenging and intelligent AI. I'm looking for a good challenge and for an AI, that will make me grind my teeth with some unpredicatable mid to late game behavior. Thanks.

Urendi Maleldil May 3rd, 2002 09:18 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Should I do another AI scripting challenge? Maybe this time others will actually want to evaluate and vote on races besides myself.

rdouglass May 3rd, 2002 09:46 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Most of the AI's seem to have problems late-game anyways. However my vote would be for the Rage....they're probably the toughest AI yet. Easy compared to humans, but tough when compared to other AI's...at least IMO....

oleg May 4th, 2002 02:27 AM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
tnarg, collection of best AIs is called TDM-Modpack. Aqualean, Pyrochette, Rage, EarthAlliance and few others are certainly top of the league.

Crazy_Dog May 4th, 2002 11:41 AM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Right, for the best AI's, go to TDM-Modpack.
In my opinion, Rage is the best, but the others are good.

tesco samoa May 4th, 2002 03:04 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Pyrochette

Master Belisarius May 4th, 2002 07:18 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
The Rage was my favorite. But at the current TDM Version, now I like more the Toron and the Vikings (of course that I like my babies too!).
Strange Tesco: Most the people consider the Aquilaeian more hard than the Pyrochette!

Alpha Kodiak May 4th, 2002 08:08 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
The Pyrochette and the Toron usually give me fits.

If you enjoy the Rage, give the Hevordah a try. They have been causing all kinds of trouble for my latest AI project.

Crazy_Dog May 4th, 2002 09:53 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Where i can get the Hevordah ?

tesco samoa May 4th, 2002 11:43 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
I am also factoring in Ship set, pictures.

Those other races are very good as well but the question was Greatest AI's and I did not notice the 's so I only gave one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

(I am smiling when I type this)

The Hevordah are good.

Alpha Kodiak May 5th, 2002 01:43 AM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Crazy_Dog:
Where i can get the Hevordah ?<hr></blockquote>

If you have the Gold CD, the easiest way is in AlphaKodiakChewyRaceStylePack.zip in the Extras section. As a bonus (insert shameless plug here
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), you also get the Vandron which also work very well. If you don't have Gold, I'll try to repost the non-Gold Hevordah. It's probably still posted somewhere in the Scenario/Mod forum.

Tnarg May 5th, 2002 05:05 AM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
During game setup and setting AI level to hard and AI bonus to high, what exactly are the bonuses?

I have been previously setting the games to hard, and AI bonus to medium and end up as the mega evil empire by turn 60 or 70, I want some trickery and someone to box me. hold a planet for ransom so that i can rightfully claim revenge in the near and present future when I amazingly capture one of there ships and steal technology and so on and so on.

Umm, this is a Proportions game, could this be my proplem.

Crazy_Dog May 5th, 2002 12:14 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Yes, i have the Gold CD, just don't have searched the extras http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Thanks

capnq May 5th, 2002 09:25 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
AI difficulty:

High = AI uses all ministers
Medium = turns off some ministers
Low = turns off more ministers

AI bonus:

Low = all AI production x2
Medium = x3
High = x5

The AI doesn't handle a lot of tech mods well without customizing the AI for the mod; higher Version numbers of Proportions have better-adapted AI.

The AIs seem to handle my Hypermaze mod better than I expected; they ought to perform in it about as well as they would in an Ancient quadrant.

Atraikius May 6th, 2002 05:59 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
I like the Aquilians, Pyrochette, Rage, Toron, and Earth Alliance as consistantly good AI's. The EEEvil and Zorians (even if the Zorians are mine) for being entertaining without being too easy. The Vikings and the Orks have given me the toughest time though.

Jmenschenfresser May 6th, 2002 06:14 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
Well, the Vikings once took my homeworld after maybe 30 turns...was their 2nd attempt. So they get number one.

Aquiliaens are two. Had one game where they beat me back out of three systems before I stopped them with a massive mine field.

Klingons are a close third. I always end up beating them but more than once they have kicked me around.

Sinapus May 6th, 2002 06:37 PM

Re: Opionions, greatest AI\'s?
 
The Narn Regime seems to be pretty good w/minesweeping. Eventually you get reports of ships destroyed by your mines, but they managed to sweep 90+. (One reason why I set the mine limit to 200 units, the other is that the weapon talisman makes facing them even more frightening...) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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