Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

How to make troops?
Can I as a gasgiant race land troops on an enemy rock colony.
How do I capture enemy ships? Can I capture an enemy rock colony ship and somehow duplicate it?
Is there any FAQ? the manual isn't very thourogh.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

You go into the same menu used to design ships. If you have the proper techs researched (construction then troops) then troops will be one of the options for design.

Build em on any colony and pick em up with transports drop em on ANY enemy planet and watch the battle.

So yes you can use your gas giant troops to attack rock or ice planets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

To capture enemy ships you either use intel projects or boarding parties. Either way you need to research the tech. Military science level 2 for boarding parties I think.

Once you capture the ship you can send it to one of your planets with a space yard and analyze the ship to learn the techs on it.

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Troops can take over any kind of planet. You ttansfer them to the planet with Troop Transports and instruct them to "capture planet".

You take over other ships with boarding parties, allegiance subverter (psychic tech tree), or crew insurrection (intelligence).

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"How to make troops"...
Aww, How cute *LOL* Troops are made in the same manner as ships, you are allowed to meticulously design the troop as a unit, (gives me the feeling of 'Armored Core' - anyone ever play that?)...

So once you have researched troops, you should have a whole suite of components available like a Troop Cockpit, guns, armor, etc...

Also, if you research Ship Capture (advanced military science I think) you should be able to kick out boarding parties and security, use them along with some Shield Depleters... sap the shields dry, close to point blank and take over that bastard, using the Order - Capture ship. (I think hitting the 'C' key will change your cursor into a ship selection tool so you can capture without having to open the Order menu)

And yes, if you capture his ship, you can either, use it to colonize your own world, or you can drag it back to a shipyard and hit the 'G' key to bring up a menu which will allow you to analyze it, etc.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Making Troops:

First of all, make sure you have researched troops. Next, go to the ship design window and create a new unit. Choose a troop size and add the components as if you were building a ship. You can now build troops. It doesn't matter about the target planet, troops can land on any planet type.

Capturing ships:

To board ships, you have to research military science and then ship capture. You'll get a component called "Boarding Parties" and add a few of those to a ship design. In combat, you can now board an enemy ship with no shields left...but watch out for self-destruct devices as they will destroy your boarding ship!

Now Analyze it:

Once you've captured an enemy ship, you can take it to a space yard and analyze it. You may be able to get new tech like Rock Colony etc, but racial techs like organic and temporal will be a mystery unless you've got those traits.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Whoa, like 3 replies at once.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Impressive respons. Things begin to be clear for me now.
As of now I have only researched Ship Construction.
I have quite a lot to learn.
Thanx

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Folks,
Does he need to study "Troop Weapons"? first?
Will troops fight without them?

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Ahh, now things begin to become cloudy again.....

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Folks,
Does he need to study "Troop Weapons"? first?
Will troops fight without them?<hr></blockquote>

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Yeah, 'smaller weapons' I think... only costs like 5000 - 10000 for the first level, something I am usually able to take care of on the initial turn with the bonuses... That is, assuming my strategy that time around relies on troops (troops rock!).

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

You can design troops with either troop weapons (ground cannon) or smaller weapons, but yes you need one of these researched to at least level one.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

If i invade a rock colony.
Do I gain any tech by invading it, ie rock colonizing...

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

No, you do not gain technology from invasion.

Sorry, this is not STARS! or MOO.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Ruatha:
If i invade a rock colony.
Do I gain any tech by invading it, ie rock colonizing...<hr></blockquote>

No. You just get the planet and the population and any facilities that are still on the planet (ie: they didn't get blown up during the invasion). The population can be important, however, because you should now have a race with a different breathing atmosphere and you can move them to a planet with this atmosphere (as long as they are the only race on that planet) to increase the amount of facilities.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

Thanx all, added it to a faq, hopefully people will build on it.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

You can design troops without weapons, but they will only be good for taking damage and quelling unrest.

You can get new techs if you force an empire to surrender to you.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>You can design troops without weapons, but they will only be good for taking damage and quelling unrest.<hr></blockquote>They can also be useful as cannon fodder.
Drop a pile of them on a planet, and while the defending militia is distracted, pounding on their shields, your real warrior troops with the heavy guns can smash stuff.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Wardad:
No, you do not gain technology from invasion.

Sorry, this is not STARS! or MOO.<hr></blockquote>

According to MM's own "Q&A" on their website you somehow get a 'better chance to acquire a tech' when you capture a facility from a tech levle that you do not have already. Exactly what this means has never been clarified.

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

SJ,
"They can also be useful as cannon fodder.
Drop a pile of them on a planet, and while the defending militia is distracted, pounding on their shields, your real warrior troops with the heavy guns can smash stuff. "
That is cruel, remind me never to join your army. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Hmm, cruel but I can wait to implement it.

I'm guessing that this requires something you have mentioned in the past:
First troops on the transport would be the shielded ones and the 2nd would be the weapons units? In short:
First on, First off, First Shot at.?

Re: Incredible newbie? How to make troops?
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:


According to MM's own "Q&A" on their website you somehow get a 'better chance to acquire a tech' when you capture a facility from a tech levle that you do not have already. Exactly what this means has never been clarified.<hr></blockquote>

Interesting, has this happened to anyone?

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