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ts22 May 21st, 2002 05:45 AM

Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
I was looking around for some pics and came across a website that has a series of ship pictures that seem perfect for a SEIV shipset. The website is actually related to a Star Trek Starfleet Command game but that shouldn't matter. The owner of the site has created directories for each race. Inside the directory are numerous ship images. It really looks just like the way most SEIV modders display their ships.
But there is one problem. While the "bigger" picture for the ships is there, no "top-down" (ie combat) image exists. So....any graphically-inclined modders want to take a shot at it? In all fairness, I did try to talk to the website owner about the "top down" view but have yet to receive a response.
Here's the website link: http://www.darkdrone.perooz.com/Thu11s/feralyards.htm.
Just click on the appropriate race to get taken to the ship screen. It doesn't work for all the races. Anyway, I just thought some of you guys would want to know about this. Good luck!

Fyron May 21st, 2002 06:01 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Just a minor formatting error: your link has a "." at the end of it, so it does not work. Here is a working link:
http://www.darkdrone.perooz.com/Thu11s/feralyards.htm

PvK May 21st, 2002 06:23 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Well, all you need is the game and a good graphics program like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro and you can create top-down shots using the game engine.

I don't think SFC has quite as many ship classes as SE4, but there are heaps of player-made ships for it, so ya, if people are willing to share, and someone wants to make the mini images, it's a good resource.

PvK

PDF May 21st, 2002 09:57 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
I do have all SFC games, no problem shooting images...
SFC has enough ship classes to make a good shipset for these races (it goes from Frigate to Dreadnought, with bases, but has no troops/weappalts/sats though)

In addition SFC uses standard 3D models that are viewable with shareware 3D softwares (I don't know anything more about 3D modelling ...)

Last there are a host of fan sites for this game, some could have top down shots, try a search on SFC webring.

Growltigga May 21st, 2002 10:02 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Oooh, I have no technical expertise whatsover but would absolutely love to have shipsets for the Gorn, Kzinti (oops sorry Mirak), Hydran, ISC and Lyran races

PDF May 21st, 2002 11:28 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Hey, I've just found I DO have a "Gorn Beta" shipset - made from an Gorn SFB style mod for SFC if someone understand http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif !

I don't remember where I got it however, the readme only refer to the SFC Ghosts Shipyards site- and also speaks of a Kzinti set I never saw !

Anyone have some info about these ?

Deathstalker May 21st, 2002 02:17 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
IIRC Atraikius is working on the Gorn/Kzinti shipsets (He of the Orks/Zorian fame). I know I have the beta ones (non-gold) around here somewhere. Try the races directory at Kuat Drive Yards, he has a listing for pretty much every shipset out there.

PDF May 21st, 2002 02:27 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Deathstalker,
At KUAT the race dir gives "?" as info/site for both races .... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
No sign of ISC/Lyran/Hydran either ...

Atraikius May 21st, 2002 03:56 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
I have the Kzinti's ship set filled out (models are old Kzinti's froms Ghosts website), but ran into some trouble with the AI - does fairly well one game, but chokes miserably the next. Unless you really want it, I am waiting to put it back up until I have those problems worked out. The Gorns (old SFB design from Ghosts shipyards) are about 80% done, but trying to finish up the Kzinti's and Chaos (Battle Fleet Gothic) first. Have a start on the Lyrans (same as Gorns/Kzinti's), but they are going rather slowly as I am using they are one of the races I am working with my brother on to help him learn to make his own AI's.

Unless someone else gets to them first, my brother has started to assemble ship sets for the Hydrans, and SFB style Romulans.

If you check around the SFB sites there are programs for converting the Star Fleet Command models to formats usable by other 3D programs, and a program for viewing the models outside of the game. But I think using the simulator in the game is about the easiest.

[ May 21, 2002, 15:00: Message edited by: Atraikius ]

Growltigga May 21st, 2002 04:02 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Atraikius - how many beer tokens do I need to pay you and your borther to get these sets all finished?

ts22 May 22nd, 2002 12:19 AM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Beer tokens? Yeah take mine too!
Some of these ships are begging for a SEIV conVersion.

Atraikius May 22nd, 2002 06:14 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Found the main problem with the Kzinti's Last night - should have them ready by the end of the week now.

Growltigga May 22nd, 2002 06:34 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
what do you mean 'main problem with the kzintis'? you mean other than them being 7 foot tall hyper muscled savage blood thirsty psychopathic killers?

Atrocities May 22nd, 2002 08:22 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Your talking about Fleet Doc 13, I would seriously recommend that you get Ghosts approval before using his sets.

I have permission to use the TOS set, and others, but choose not to develop them for SEIV because of the time it would take to do so.

To get top down images you'll need the M6 viewer, and I don't have the link to that site. Do a search for it. Good luck, and visit my site.

(Link is NASY below)

Atraikius May 22nd, 2002 10:28 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
I meant the problem with the AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities - I had already recieved permission from him - back when we had the discussion Last year. Going to send him an email about a couple of specifics just to make sure though, because I modified a couple of his models to fill in a couple gaps with fighters and freighters.

Atrocities May 23rd, 2002 03:46 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
I look forward too seeing the races when you have completed them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Growltigga May 24th, 2002 12:41 PM

Re: Lyran, Hydran, Gorn and other Trek races
 
Atraikius, the cheque book is open, I can write all sort of noughts in this so when can we get to see the Kzinti

The coolest and most ferocious cats to rule the starways - grrrrrrrrr


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