BattleTech Race Style ?
 

I was wondering if anyone has seen a Battletech Race Style.. ?

It seems to me that BattleTech has almost everything to create a new style :

BattleMechs - Troops
DropShips - Transport
Aerospace Fighters - Fighters
Starships - Ships
LongTom - Weapon Platforms

hehehe

RiTz21

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

I think someone started working on one a long time ago and quit. They have not been here in over a year.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

If anyone is considering picking this up, or if you just want to check out some fresh designs, visit http://www.badkarma.net/teams/battle...ory/main.shtml
Select Aerotech
Pretty darn nice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Actually IMO I thought that the Renegade Legion Universe would be nice especially since it primarily focus's on ships but Fasa did come out with a great tank Version of which the name escapes me atm and I am to lazy to go to my closet.

I was really saddened that Battletech got all the glory over Renegade L. I thought the RL universe to be far more compelling and realistic than a nuclear reactor in a battlemech that didnt vape a city when the mech went boom boom.

/sigh One of these days i really need to learn programing so i can learn to mod and ummmm put some board games i got to the comp.

Malagon

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=008632

I too liked the Renegade Legion universe FAR more than Battletech. I hated the hodgepodge of high-tech and really crappy tech in Battletech, and I can't suspend my disbelief for giant walking robots defeating tanks. RL also had a much larger sense of scale, which is cool too. The tank game was Centurion, BTW.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

if you stop feeding a fusion reacter fuel, the reaction stops. of course, there's still superheating to deal with, but they could be using some Version of cold fusion. of course, if your fuel supply went up, that's still a lot of hydrogen... and theoretically, you could start your fusion reaction up again. i guess the appeal of battletech is bigger is better:). what's renegade legion?

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Giant robots>j00 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Giant robots>almost everything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

It's a fact, Giant robots are the coolest thing ever, although tanks are good, big stomping robots own. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Now a tank that transforms into a giant robot is the coolest thing ever in the neverending universe. period http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Now a tank that transforms into a giant robot is the coolest thing ever in the neverending universe. period [Cool]

naaaarrrrffff

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Renegade Legion was the other major game universe created by FASA in the late 80's. It centered around the galaxy-spanning Terran Overlord Government (think Star Wars Galactic Empire with a Roman theme) and it's attempts to crush the Commonwealth (typical goody-goody multi-species democracy) and the Renegade Legions, TOG forces that had defected to the Commonwealth.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe, but you know what's not included in the "almost everything"? RenLeg Grav Tanks. They're faster, heavier, carry more firepower, have a FAR longer range, and even have shields. The tech in RenLeg is way beyond that of BTech, partially due to being 3800 years farther in the future that BT.

Heck, even a Garrison Legion, which has ground, rather than grav, vehicles could probably stomp mechs.

The entire might of the Draconis Combine (according to the Field Manual: DC, if you add up the OOBs) is only about 9,000 mechs and 70,000 infantry. Not only is that pathetic compared to the modern world, but about 15 Garrison Legions could defeat such a force (that's about 8,600 tanks and IFVs and 41,000 bounce infantry), and Thapsus alone, TOG's occupational capital in Shannedam county, has 25 Garrison Legions. TOG's total military strength is somewhere around 8 million legions and 1 billion space warships, enough to give even 40k's Imperium of Man a run for it's money.

I scoff at the pathetic capabilities of Battletech. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

[ March 28, 2003, 14:14: Message edited by: Noble713 ]

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Well ok... I guess folks have strong opinions on Renegade Legion vs. Battletech, which I really can't comment on, but it sounds interesting.

Actually, earlier discussions were generated about throwing together an "anime" set using remnants of Robotech, Battletech, etc...

Just checking to see in anyone was inspired.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nuclear reactors just don't go up like that unless you're REALLY trying.
Think about it, why would you want to carry around a critical mass of uranium if its not intended to be a bomb? Rather, you just need a small very sub-critical pile, which will power you for years.

Nuclear submarines don't make mushroom clouds when they get torpedoed. They just leak, sink, and spread a little radioactive material at worst.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, actually, the coolest thing ever is a big viking stomping robot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima...TroopSmall.gif http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima...roopMedium.gif http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima...TroopLarge.gif

As the evidence above clearly demonstrates, big stompy robots ownz tanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ March 28, 2003, 15:39: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Actually, I had forgotten about Renegade Legion. I played BattleTech, Star Trek and FASA's cyberpunk game, but never did play RL. Too bad FASA folded. They put out some good products, and that meant you didn't have to play AD&D all of the time. The other game company I supported was Steve Jackson Games and their GURPS system. If no one has played it, give it a try. It's mostly a skill point system, but it so adaptable, you can play in almost genre that your imagination can take you.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nuclear reactors just don't go up like that unless you're REALLY trying.
Think about it, why would you want to carry around a critical mass of uranium if its not intended to be a bomb? Rather, you just need a small very sub-critical pile, which will power you for years.

Nuclear submarines don't make mushroom clouds when they get torpedoed. They just leak, sink, and spread a little radioactive material at worst.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i thought the reactors were fusion reactors not fission. from what i remember of the description of them they worked (scifi technobabble description of course) by shooting a deuterium pellet with lasers to the point of a fusion reaction that was contained in a magnetic bottle. it would seem to me that if the bottle was breached there would be an explosion, maybe not emough to take out a city but enough to take out the mech and everything in the immediate vicinity.

regarding renegade legion. there were two games for it that i remember the first was a old strategy game based upon the rules of the board game. it even did missions based upon the rules. as your characters advanced you gained points that you could use to customize your ships.
the second one was a flight sim called Renegade Legion: Battle for Jacobs Star. you were a young Plutarch who disobeyed a cowardly order to retreat and actually took out a squadron of Spiculums. as a result your were busted down in rank and shiped to the middle of nowhere just as a Tog offensive starts. if you lose you die and there were 3 levels of victory depending on your difficulty setting. it was a fun game also.

[ March 31, 2003, 01:18: Message edited by: desdinova ]

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Actually, for most of the things you need nuclear power, if you can lug the weight (it's not as efficient) and are worried about explosions, use a pebble bed reactor.

They CAN'T blow up. Sure, a direct hit will spray radioactive pebbles everywhere, but that's not nearly as bad as a meltdown.

Which CAN happen with a fission reactors. Fusion reactors like BT CAN explode..but ONLY if their shielding fails catastrophically. If there's time for the (hydrogen) feed to shut down, no boom.

But if there's a critical failure? boom.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fusion via pellets is a pretty good design, and realistic given the beastly lasers you have available.

Magnetic bottles are just that; magnetic fields. They can't be "breached", though they could be distorted by an EMP (if not for the big metal faraday cage of a mech they're carried in) or the generator (big electromagnet?) could be disabled.

Fusion is hard to start, so you'd only get one of the pellets fusing during your explosion. (Ie: the one that was burning at the time.)
And since the reactor can handle these things going off steadily during combat, it certainly isn't going to be a city buster http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (Note that the magnetic bottle will hold charged particles, rather then neutral ones, so there will have to be a decent physical container too.)

[ March 31, 2003, 03:42: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">like being hit by a PPC through the chest? (after you have lost all armor and stuff like that of course)

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

A fusion reactor will not explode IIRC. To keep the plasma at the required temperature of several million ° Celsius you have to keep up a high degree of pressure. The moment the magnetic fields are distorted the pressure is released and the fusion reaction ceases. The temperature of the plasma declines dramatically. You get no explosion whatsoever and only the plasma may damage the reactor and the vicinity. But as I already said, with the magnetic field gone the plasma cools down imminently to the point were it isn't harmful any more to the reactor.
The BT rule crew was even aware of it but kept the catastrophic damage event in the rules for “eye candy” (it’s written somewhere in the rules).

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

hehe It's interesting how the topic of the thread has evoled to the current Renegade Leagion/Fusion reactor discussion !!!

Hell, I do not even remember posting about a BattleTech shipset.. hehe How much information does one looses to memory loss !!? (oUPS another off subject topic.. hehehe)

RiTz21

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Suicide Junkie, pulsed fusion is pretty different to the constant-feed fusion I was talking about. I'm pretty sure that BT fusion is constant-feed.

And you "breach" the field by destroying the generators for the magnetic fields, yeah.

Mephisto, the explosion won't be massive but it'll still be an explosion. I wouldn't like to be within a hundred meters or so of a deacent sized reactor going up... (it'll also be pretty clean, mind you)

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Do they not run on deuterium pellets?
You could keep them dropping into the reactor at a fast rate, and though you'd still only be "burning" one at a time as they reach the laser focus, it would appear continuous to the naked eye.

All you really need is a reasonably steady output (capacitor), and adjustable power for when you need the extra juice to run and shoot.

Yeah:
The explosion would be basically a bunch of super-hot hydrogen, helium and disassociated mech parts flying around.
Tin foil on riot gear should protect you from the bLast and heat. You'll have to depend on luck to not be splattered by the hail of oversized nuts and bolts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Nope, as I recall they use a steady hydrogen flow.

Certainly the HH and Starfire fusion reactors are constant flow.

Re: BattleTech Race Style ?
 

Bump