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Andrés July 18th, 2002 05:51 AM

The List of all Races
 
It's been updated
http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/racedir.htm

Please report any error or missing race

Tell me of the races I have listed in old sections of the Shrapnel forums are posted anywhere else.
If not someone should re-post them (maybe upadting AI), and then it will be safe for Richard to erase the old forums, as he's been threatening.

Atrocities July 18th, 2002 07:44 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gandalph July 18th, 2002 06:39 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Indeed, thank you. You actually got all three of my races, even though the Tesli'k was just posted yesterday. Nice work!

Pax July 18th, 2002 11:39 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
It's been updated
http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/racedir.htm

Please report any error or missing race

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You list the Neo-Candian empire (Gtkk) as unavailable / "not Online anymore" ... that is in fact incorrect.

I downloaded it within the past two weeks, from Universal Shipyards. A direct link is --&gt; HERE &lt;---

Also, the Directory Name is GTKK, not "canadian" (at least as it unZIPped for me) ... and the creator is John Beech.

IMO it's a beautiful shipset -- and thankfully, it IS still available Online. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[edit: strange UBBcode error, not my fault - honest!]

[ July 18, 2002, 22:42: Message edited by: Pax ]

henk brouwer July 18th, 2002 11:58 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PAX You list the Neo-Candian empire (Gtkk) as unavailable / "not Online anymore" ... that is in fact incorrect.

I downloaded it within the past two weeks, from Universal Shipyards. A direct link is --&gt; HERE &lt;---

Also, the Directory Name is GTKK, not "canadian" (at least as it unZIPped for me) ... and the creator is John Beech.

IMO it's a beautiful shipset -- and thankfully, it IS still available Online. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's the 'new-neo' canadian shipset, there used to be an older very different Version that was made by GTTK, that one is no longer Online.

[ July 18, 2002, 23:01: Message edited by: henk brouwer ]

pathfinder July 19th, 2002 12:06 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Thanks...ya got all 3 of mine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Andrés July 19th, 2002 04:13 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
When this new grey, red and blue shipset for the neo-canadian was made the old gold and blue verison has been replaced everywhere.

The new Version is included in the list (although it not next to it since shipset are ordered by directory name).

I was told that the shipset has survived in the Ultimate Mod, and since that mod it's not Online in SpaceEmpires.org, it can only be found in the Version of the Ultimate Mod hosted in the PBW site.

Deathstalker July 19th, 2002 04:26 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Shame, I kinda liked the old Canadian one (I know, biased I guess being one and all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ). Luckily I still have it on the old p133 computer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Andrés July 19th, 2002 04:32 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I modded it with a different name, a new race portrait and a fast patched religious-psychic AI
I wonder I should and if it would be ok if I posted it like this.

oleg July 20th, 2002 01:31 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Thanks a lot !

Shaq-Toth = Soul Hunters, I made that ship set.
Also, the latest pictures of Pequeninos and Soul Hunters can be found in Proportions' web site:

http://g2.latibulum.com/pvk/proportions/

Andrés March 6th, 2003 05:11 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by trooper (in the Dragon Shipset thread):
By the way Andres, you were thinking some time ago of an update of your shipset list... still in project ?
Such a page would be greatly usefull...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is another of the too ambitious projects I'm constanlt leaving behind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
Some of you seem to be Online with nothing better to do much longer than me.

I've downloaded and installed in my computer most of the newer shipsets out there, all I need is to revise every one of them to verify names, links and authors.
Seach for dead links (need to update all NASY links) and check a few sites (shrapnel download forum, USy, NASY, PBW, SOAS, (other?) for shipsets I could have missed)

trooper March 6th, 2003 10:12 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
That's good news. Perhaps I could help, I don't know in which way. I can check some of the current races if you like and make a report.

I think that an interactive way to declare a race (dynamic form or simple mail), warn for dead links and updates would be useful to have an up- to-day list.

Alpha Kodiak March 6th, 2003 10:34 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
The Namovan Empire seems to be missing.

Namovans

Atrocities March 6th, 2003 10:47 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
If you want your ship set included I would say that it is up to the author to provide you with the information Andres. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have something like 35 sets now. That is a lot. I can organize the links for you and post them here in a couple of days.

Will that work better for you?

ZeroAdunn March 6th, 2003 10:48 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Hey, you forgot my shipsets http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Star Base Zero

Currently I only have 3, the Gimshari, the Thermian, and the Zykonian.

And please remove the Lyosion, Galactic Command, and the Turian Commonwealth, I hate those shipsets and would rather not have them on your list http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

minipol March 6th, 2003 10:51 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
The link to the Goa'uld shipset seem to be dead.
Anyway, what an impressive list.
Great job on compiling it!

dogscoff March 7th, 2003 12:01 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
This has to be one of the most useful community resources out there.

The KanesS aren't on there, although to be fair they're not finished.
http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/KanesS.htm

I'm gonna do some serious downloading tomorrow becasue of this page...

trooper March 7th, 2003 01:05 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
The pirates are soon finished.
just done the fighters today !

http://diesel2035.free.fr/pirates

Andrés March 7th, 2003 01:36 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Unfortunately many shipset makers don't know of the list or don't care about getting listed and some that never visit this forum.

Active checking and searching will still be necessary, unless I only want to list those who send me thge info.

But yes it will help a lot to have authors providing the information.

I know of about 20 new shipsets that should be added to the list, and so far all you just reminded me of were already among them.

Could you please post the data I put into the 4 columns so I don't have to redownload every shipset?

Maybe I should also list alternate AIs for stock races.

Some authors call their shipsets with a name that does not match neither their in-game name (Empire Name + Empire Type) or internal name (dir & files).

I want to be as strict and acurate as possible about names so please verify that data before posting.

Hey ZeroAdunn I like your old shipsets and still use them in solo games from time to time.
I think you should should rescue them and add them to your site. I still have my enhaced contrast Version of the Lyosion if you need it.
But I will honor your request and remove them, I think those links are dead anyway.

Zarix March 7th, 2003 08:55 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Add http://koti.mbnet.fi/lehtkl/imagemod.htm to Zorgoid, Rintax, Toron and Aquilaeian links. You can remove the old links from Toron and Aquilaeian because they don't work.

trooper March 7th, 2003 09:55 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I think you want something like that : <table width="100%" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>Pexlerr Kingdom</td>
<td>PEXLERR</td>
<td>Trooper</td>
<td>SOTAS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Space sharks Union</td>
<td>SPACESHARK</td>
<td>Trooper</td>
<td>SOTAS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Pirates Clan </td>
<td>PIRATES</td>
<td>Trooper</td>
<td>SOTAS</td>
</tr>
</table>

I'm also gonna check some of the existing races in the list.

trooper March 7th, 2003 10:35 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I've started to check from the bottom of the list.

Seems that there is a lot of update work. Perhaps you should start from scratch because there are almost more dead links then working ones.

dead links :

Zedron
Vulcan (ALL NASY links seems to be down)
Viral
Vidhrine
Unified Terran Empire
Ur-Quan Hegemony
United Freespace Alliance

One other point is links that bring on this forum, but on pages that doesn't contain the named shipset. That's quite confusing for the visitor. Perhaps we should give these races a more "stable" download area, with the author agrement of course...

unable to find the on the forum :

Zorian
Zorgoid
Vasudan
Vandron
Ur-Quan Hegemony

Fyron March 7th, 2003 10:55 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Look in the PBW file downloads library.

Atrocities March 7th, 2003 12:29 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Vertually every race I have ever made is at the PBW site.

Back in the summer I had complications with the hosting site for the NASY Site. The new site has been at http://galileo.spaceports.com/~william/main.htm
and http://newageshipyards.cjb.net since October.

I have 25 races availible, 20 being star trek, 5 being other. Several of the Star Trek races have, or soon will have, 2 or perhaps 3 differant ship sets availible to download. I only keep the latest ones AI up to date. The other ones can copy the newest AI over if they wish to have up to date AI but want to keep the ship set Version they are using.

I am also working on having a master download page made to list all the ship sets and Versions that are availible, but you can get most of them right now from PBW.

Atrocities March 7th, 2003 12:31 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Sorry, but I had a question for Tim Brooks or even Richard if he could answer it. Is there a way to get a list of all the uploads a member has made to the forum, old forum and new one? This way I could have access to those old files.

I lost my copy of all my upload history a while back. (copies of upload links.)

Rexxx March 7th, 2003 12:44 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by trooper:
unable to find the on the forum :

Zorian
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In the ships/races section of the mod-forum there is a post from Atraikius (December 11th, 2002) with the Zorian shipset and an updated AI.

Andrés March 7th, 2003 05:37 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Thanks Trooper.
I've made a partial update of the list.
http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/racedir.htm

About NASY what we need to do is follow the link in Atrocities' signature and copy data from all up there.

About races posted in the forums, it's most likely that due to new Posts they've been moved to an older page.
Copying them to a more permanent location is not a bad idea (and finally moving all from the old download areas to a safe location) but I'm too lazy to do it.

trooper March 7th, 2003 11:44 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
A short precision : I was not searching for the zorian shipset (or another shipset), I was checking if links on the current shipset list of Andres were pointing on a page on which the shipset could be directly downloaded.
There are actually lots of stuff available on the forum, but It's a hell to find something there (I have difficulties to find stuff on it indeed, and I think I'm not more stupid or clever then the average visitor).

So, I think it's very useful to have an up-to-date list with direct working links. Shipset authors will have to check if all their shipsets are here, and if they are not, provide the missing informations in a four columns format, as in my previous thread. (So Andres will not have to download the shipset abd check the directory name.

Bonus ideas :

It would be fun and convenient to have a sample picture for each shipset. Another very uselfull info is the neostandard compatibility for custom mods. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron March 7th, 2003 11:50 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

About races posted in the forums, it's most likely that due to new Posts they've been moved to an older page.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That does not matter. The files uploaded do not move if the Posts referencing them move to different pages.

trooper March 8th, 2003 10:49 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Dead links of the day, a pretty good seed :

wrong page on forum :

United floral
Tholian Assembly
Technologic empire
Taidan Commonwealth

Dead links :

United FLoral
UCP consortium
United COlors
Tylmai republic
UFP Federation (like all NASY links)
Torron confederation
Starfleet Command
Tlaxcalan Imperium
Tholian Assembly
Terran Coalition
Taeron Confederacy (on USY)
Tarea Republic
Sith empire
Rebell Alliance (on USY)
Hapes COnsortium (no link... still coming soon ?)
Imperial Remnant (no link)
Dark empire (no link)
Galactic empire (on USY)
Starwolf clan

Fyron March 8th, 2003 10:55 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Most, if not all, of those sets can be acquired from the PBW file library, whenever PBW gets fixed up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

trooper March 8th, 2003 01:08 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Andres will choose what He will do with those races. All I do at the moment is setting the list of shipset which has to be deleted/corrected in the existing list.

I think the best solution would be that shipset authors write here where their downloadable files exactly are.

Andrés March 8th, 2003 11:12 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Most aouthors will not like a direct link to the zip file, and I'm to lazy to ask every one for permission.

Fyron March 8th, 2003 11:17 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Most authors don't have a web page though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Suicide Junkie March 9th, 2003 12:36 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
And anything uploaded to shrapnel already would not be a problem.

Atrocities March 9th, 2003 10:10 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
You really need to read other poeples Posts! And for crying out loud look at my signature and click on the link! (like all NASY links)

Correct links:
Tholian Assembly

UCP consortium

UFP Federation

Starfleet Command

Starwolf clan

[ March 09, 2003, 08:18: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

trooper March 9th, 2003 04:27 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Let's keep quiet my friends, it's a systematic link test of the current list I'm trying to do, it's not harassement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif !

Andres : When I write "direct link" I'm not thinking about a link to the zip file, but a working link on a page that contains the downloadable zip. I wouldn't like SO to put a direct link on my zip files to on his site indeed...
Moreover, it's more convenient to have a demo page of the shipset before downloading it, so the less direct zip links, the better. As written below, I see a exception to this rule.

SJ : If think shipsets posted in the forum are actually a problem, because pages move on this forum, and a link which work today will be wrong in a few weeks. Perhaps in this particular case direct links on the zip files should be done...
Perhaps there is a efficient way I haven't heard about, to find an up-to-date shipset file on this forum. If so, please tell it to me.

Atrocities : message received, I will always try to add the good URL for your old shipsets in your current page. Nethertheless, I haven't found the Rogue Fleet Alliance on your current site ?

Anyway, here are today's wrong lines, perhaps you can help finding that lost shipsets :

dead links :

Sonne clan
Son'a Command must be changed to : http://galileo.spaceports.com/~william/sona.htm
Solarion
Slaanesh Chapter
Sims Empire
Shadows Realm
Star empire of Romii available at http://mkv25.net/USy/central.php?inf...ewer&raceID=15
Selachii Pak Domion (no link)
SCrin imperium2
Romulan must be changed to : http://galileo.spaceports.com/~william/romulan.htm
Rogue Fleet Alliance (Unable to find it on NASY)
Angelican Regency (available at http://mkv25.net/USy/central.php?inf...wer&raceID=14)
Rage collective (available at PBM : http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/index.jsp?me...&body=faq.html )
Pyrochette Empire
Panije Coalition
Sovereign Pacean Directorate (available at PBM under name "Pacean Old Legion": http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/index.jsp?me...&body=faq.html )

Orks clan (Usy) (available at PBM : http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/index.jsp?me...&body=faq.html )

Wrong page on forum :

Slaanesh Chapter
Shadri
Rintax Empire
Protos
Pequeninos Oligarchy

Gryphin March 9th, 2003 06:03 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I'm not sure if I follow.
One way to put and keep all of the links on one page would be to start a thread with the ship sets linked in the first post.
Then the author can keep it updated.
Putting the links at other sites would be great as well. (which I think is the thrust of this thread).

Edit: It would be redudant but it would work.
Perhaps it can be in the first page of this thread?
Thanks for all of your hard work.

[ March 09, 2003, 16:06: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

trooper March 9th, 2003 07:01 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
I'm not sure if I follow.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The purpose is to provide informations to Andres Lescano in order to update his huge race list at http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/racedir.htm

That's why I trying to see in the list what lines have a bad URL and have to be corrected or deleted. I also encourage authors who has created a race which is not on this list to provide here
- the name of the race
- the name of the race directory in SE IV pictures/races
- The author name
- the URL of a page where the zip file can be easily found.

[ March 09, 2003, 17:03: Message edited by: trooper ]

Fyron March 9th, 2003 11:16 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Most ship sets out there do not have web pages to link to.

trooper March 9th, 2003 11:47 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Most ship sets out there do not have web pages to link to.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So how can we find them ?

Fyron March 10th, 2003 12:24 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Link to the zip files uploaded to Shrapnel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Andrés March 10th, 2003 12:38 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I updated all NASY links.
I couldn't find the Doppleganger, Illuminati, Rogue and UFA

trooper March 10th, 2003 01:09 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Link to the zip files uploaded to Shrapnel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exactly what I was saying before, isn't it ?

Atrocities March 10th, 2003 01:44 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I couldn't find the Doppleganger, Illuminati, Rogue and UFA

Can be downloaded at PBW.

**NOTE** I am working on the latest addition to the Illuminati right now. The Doppelganger will be next then the UFA.

Fyron March 10th, 2003 02:14 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by trooper:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Link to the zip files uploaded to Shrapnel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exactly what I was saying before, isn't it ?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is what I said to do in the first place, and then you went on about linking to web sites for the ship sets instead of the zip files. The prevelance of ship set web pages has not changed in the Last few days that I am aware of. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

trooper March 10th, 2003 07:30 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Beuargh !

Andres will choose what is the best. He's the owner of the list, after all.

trooper March 10th, 2003 10:19 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Todays lost and found shipsets. It's up to you, Andres http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Wrong page on forum :

Orion Faction
Mirak Hegemony
League of Non-Aligned Worlds
Lego Empire (available on PBW : http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp)

Dead links :

Utopian Brotherhood
Nlolam empire
United Nations Confederation
Narn Regime (available on PBW : http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp)
Mok empire
Manadakh Empire (available on PBW : http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp)
League of Empires?
Lyosion
Kzzt (available on PBW http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp)
Ixaris Continuum (available on PBW http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp)

and also :

- The Legion Imperium is called "the legion" on PBW

- Plus, a very good one for your collection :
League of Worlds
directory name : LOW
author : Lance Nutter
URL : http://seiv.pbw.cc/shipsets.jsp

Fyron March 10th, 2003 10:25 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I still don't see why posting direct links to zip files for sets that do not have a web page is a bad thing. You do not really lose anything from not having whatever little amount of information was in the post for the download.

ZeroAdunn March 10th, 2003 11:08 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:

Hey ZeroAdunn I like your old shipsets and still use them in solo games from time to time.
I think you should should rescue them and add them to your site. I still have my enhaced contrast Version of the Lyosion if you need it.
But I will honor your request and remove them, I think those links are dead anyway.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank you Andres. Maybe I will at some point revisit them and post them on my site. Unfortunately, not today.


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