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Aaargggh, I still cannot workout how to instal the TDM modpack from the SEIVGold CD.

Can someone explain howe to do it in simple babytalk.

I have windows second edition, an ulcer and an itinerant wife

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Ok. Go here (link) . Download the latest Version, instead of the gold-cd Version. Assuming (since you're trying to pull it off the CD) you do not have a Version of TDM in your SE4gold folder, you want to click on the "Download the TDM-ModPack Full Install" link at the bottom of the page.

You will be downloading an .exe file, not a zip file. Before you run the .exe file, use explorer to view your SE4gold folder. Write down EXACTLY the address in the address window (it should probably be something like "C:/blah/blah/Space Empires 4 Gold")

Run the .exe file (double click it). It will bring up an install wizard. Follow the recommended coarse of automatically finding your SE4gold folder. It will then prompt you, telling you what folder it is about to install TDM to. Make sure this is the address you wrote down. If it is, then let it continue with the install.

I hope I covered it all, it's been a while since I installed TDM. Wait a minute, no it hasn't! But it sure seems like it has been... Anyway, I hope that finally clears it all up for you.

PS. what's windows second edition? Is it win2000? winme? winxp? Second edition of what Version?

[ July 23, 2002, 11:31: Message edited by: dumbluck ]

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You're welcome, by the way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I was veeeeeeeery tempted to reply with, "goo, gaaaaaa, ert, mamamamamamamamamama, pttttb, ..." etc. etc. etc. You know, baby talk. But I exercised restraint. It was difficult, but I prevailed. Now if only I could prevail in my PBW games.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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dumbluck, many thanks. I shall follow your instructions and hopefully that will do the bizz..

I am glad you didn't repond with baby talk, I would have been forced to arrange for the chocolate factory you work in to be blown up..

Sorry, I meant to say I have an itinerant windows Version, and a second edition wife

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So? Hell, I might have offered to help....

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apologies dumbluck, as a lawyer, I should have clarified that Last statement to make it absolutely crystal that whilst the 6 tons of C4 were being placed around the factory, you would be (1) tied to a chair in said factory, (2) covered with melted dark chocolate, (3) really disliking walnuts given where they have been inserted, (4) gagged with a curly wurly and (5) never wanting to look at a peanut coated bar of chocolate again (especially as you will be able to opine on its use as an abrasive on sensitive skin)

but, as you did not use baby talk, this is all subjective

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. Oh.
2. Actually, that's supposed to be good for you pores....
3. Ew. Homey don' play dat.
4. What's a "curly wurly"?
5. Heh. I'm already too that point.... well, except for the skin abrasive part... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Of coarse, that's all assuming
1. you know something about explosives, or know someone who does.
1a. I don't.
2. You can find some dark chocolate (we don't work with it in the plant...)
3. You're a little more kinky than I'd care to know about.
4. you know where to find a curly wurly in the area (unless you want to try to get one thru custums right now... you'd have better luck trying to sneak in a box knife or two...
5. know how to run the machinery to make a p-nut bar, since we don't make those, either.

And while you're doing all this elaborate torture preperations, I'll just stick your hand in an auger and watch the ground hamburger come out the other end. Just like the guy who did it to himself tonite. (well, ok, just the tips of 2 of his fingers...) That shut down the line for a while, let me tell you. Not that we were getting much done anyway, since dayshift maintenance thinks a machine is set up if most of the correct parts are there, and it will power up....

Ok, I'm going to stop now before I end up ranting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

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dumbluck,
I will respond to your jibes in good time BUT I want to say thanks, the downloading and installing the TDM Modpack worked and it is excellent.

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1. Oh.

Nothing personal http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

2. Actually, that's supposed to be good for you pores....

and how on earth did anyone find ot about this? I suppose it is quite a good chat-up line, "Ello' darlin' fancy coming back to my place and letting me cover your naked body in hot chocolate" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

3. Ew. Homey don' play dat.

Dont understand this, Geo told me what 'Da' Man" means, dont understand what you are saying however

4. What's a "curly wurly"?

Lovely long entwined strands of toffee coated chocolate beloved by children in England

5. Heh. I'm already too that point.... well, except for the skin abrasive part... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

You are now worrying me

5. Heh. I'm already too that point.... well, except for the skin abrasive part... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Well, I was a lieutenant in the British Army

2. You can find some dark chocolate (we don't work with it in the plant...)

Eh? judging by Hershey Bars, I thought Americans loved dark chocolate - are you sure you work in a chocolate factory

3. You're a little more kinky than I'd care to know about.

Dont start me on this, you dont even now what happens with some industrial detergent, some ball bearings, a pot of marmite and a red setter

4. you know where to find a curly wurly in the area (unless you want to try to get one thru custums right now... you'd have better luck trying to sneak in a box knife or two...

Easy, I love FedEx

5. know how to run the machinery to make a p-nut bar, since we don't make those, either.

Aha, as part of my cunning plan, I will have the daymaintenance shift working the machines at gunpoint

And while you're doing all this elaborate torture preperations

The rest of this is seriously disturbed, are you sure you are getting real job satisfaction?

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Grrrrrr. I had all my answers typed up, and pushed preview post to make sure my UBB code was right. I got a message saying that they couldn't preview the post because i had to many images (the current limit is 8). Then when I hit the back button, all my hard work was erased!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif There! 8 and only 8 angry faces. I guess I'm not allowed to be any more angry than that!

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I'm glad I could help, btw.

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it was much appreciated dumbluck, the TDM modpack looks excellent, the races seem well tough and I can play as THE EARTH ALLIANCE!!

Yippee, does anyone have a good Mimbari and Centauri race set

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Go to Babylon5 mod page. It has both.
Centuari set is particulary well done.

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Cheers Oleg, I still have not forgotten that we are meant to be meeting up at some point for a half a shandy and a pickled gherkin

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Will do Oleg, I am a bit chocka over the next week due to the Commonwealth Games (my firm is a major sponsor so lots of good tickets - but no women's beach volleyball http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

Would love to today but I have just been to Tampopo and eaten enough Mee Penang to feed a small south east country http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

BUUURRRRRPP

'scuse me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif First let me say I am fairly new to this game. I have a question about Mod’s in general. I understand the basic principle, you drop a mod in change the “path.txt” to point to this Mod and the game uses the stats/values of the Mod. Now I have read about the Proportions Mod the TDM Mod and some others.

1. Can you put more then one Mod in play/use at a time?
2. The TDM Mod sounds like a basic Mod to the AI is this correct and if so does it change the basic script of the game?
3. If the answer to #1 is no, how can TDM be put into use with any other MOD?

Thanks

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1) Yes and No. See below.

2) TDM changes the AI's scripts, race setups, and various other settings.

3) TDM can be used with many of the mods available, but not all.

How to Merge Mods.
- If the mods do not use the same files, such as TDM, and P&N classic, then simply installing both into the same modfolder will do.
- If the mods conflict by making changes to the smae files, you can try walking through both files plus the original files, and picking out the items that have been changed or added.
- Some mods are fundamentally incompatible, and cannot be merged.
- Some mods may not use the same files, but can still be incompatible. TDM + a "Humans Only" mod, for example.

For P&N + TDM in particular, I have written an AI-patcher program to make the nessesary changes.

[ July 24, 2002, 18:33: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

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I checked AI for Minbari and Centauri (the standard SE Versions) and they are pre-Gold. Does anybody have Gold Versions ? If not, are the authors working on update ? If not, there surely should be volunteers to improve them to TDM level.

Ravenhand, TDM = better AI for default SE IV. It can be used with other mods exactly in same way as standart SE AI. Tt is all different in each particular case. Better to consult mod authors

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The standard Hershey bar is not "dark" chocolate, it's only "milk" chocolate.

Hershey's brand of dark chocolate is called "Hershey's Special Dark".

I have heard chocolate connoisseurs complain that Hershey ruined Americans' taste in chocolate.

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I think that the AI for those two shipsets have been heavily modded to fit into the BAB5 mod. Am I incorrect?

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Yes, AI is different. But both Minbari and Centauri have been originaly released with normal AI. They should still be somewhere in download forum. In worst case, copy AI from some other race. Just take care to adjust AI_general.txt

Tigga, let me know when and where.

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Hershey's is the Microsoft of the chocolate business. To put things in perspective....

I work for Russell Stover Candies. We are the #1 seller of Boxed Chocolates (you know, like you give to your significant other, or the kind that Forrest Gump's mom always talked about. In fact, that was the brand of candies he had, if I'm not mistaken...). A while back, Hersheys kind of half-heartedly did a test to see if they could break into the boxed chocolate market. (Hershey's Pot of Gold, or some such thing). As a result, my factory recently came out of a 4 month layoff. (which my seniority spared me from).

I hate Hershey's. Of coarse, I'm not real fond of any chocolate anymore... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif