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Well folks, Scifi has decided to pull the plug on Farscape, the most inovative SciFi series since the original Star Trek. The show will run out season 4 and be done with it. If you werent familiar with the series, it followed the tale of modern day US astronaught (and fellow southerner) John Crichton, who was shot through a wormhole to a distant part of the galaxy. Apon arriving, he accidently kills a PeaceKeeper and is forced to flee with a group of escaped prisoners. The character of Crichton is more real and three dimensional than all the Star Trek crews combined. We watch him transform from a peace loving scientist, to a brutal, mercyless fighter in only a season. He struggled for his sanity in season 2, fighting a neural clone of his arch enemy inside his head. The sudden cancellation screws the series quite bad, since the "Emergency cancelation" ending was already used mid way in season 3 when it was belived that the series was going to go the distance. With the exception of the X-Files, Farscape was the only Scifi show to actually have many Emmy worthy actors. The show will be greatly missed. It dosen't seem fair that a horrible show like Voyager got to Last 7 years, while this gets canned. Ah well, I can't watch Enterprise to see the half-assed rip off of John Crichton that is captain Archer (except for the fact that Archer is a complete goody-goody compared to JC) Or watch the blatant rip off comming on Fox called Firefly. This is Farscape except with different names and grade D actors. Anyway, this sucks!

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Hmmm... well that is too bad. I liked Farscape, but I never got a chance to watch the 3rd season. Any reason why they are cancelling it? Bad Ratings? I've been out of the loop for a while.

I do agree with you about Voyager, that show actually could have been a 100 times better, but they messed it up big time. I would have approached the show in a completely different direction. I've never watched Firefly and don't plan to etheir. It looks stupied from the commercials and if its just a ripoff of Farscape, whats the point???

Thats the probablem with Sifi shows now. If any show gets popular, other networks try to copy the idea and see if they can sell it.

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"I've never watched Firefly and don't plan to etheir. It looks stupied from the commercials and if its just a ripoff of Farscape, whats the point??? "

Have faith. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Firefly will be anything but a ripoff with Joss Whedon at the helm. (The man who gave us Buffy, Angel and Aliens:Resurrection.) To compare I remember the beginning of B5 when all my friends called it a ripoff of DS9 and the Narn were just Klingon's in bad makeup. (that and Sinclair acted on the same level as Kirk http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

On the original topic I never really got to know Farscape, always worked when it was on (think I caught one episode which I did like).

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How do you know it's being cancelled? This is the first I've heard of it. Not that I follow it, either. I work during it's airtime, too. Which kinda sucks, because I've heard nothing but good things about the show...

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Farscape writer David Kemper mentioned the that FS was being cancled at a recent chat. The cast had a cancellation party on Saturday and will finish their season (and final) shoot Tuesday. It was not cancled because of Ratings, in fact it is the Scifi channels number 1 draw. My theory is (Take me seriously) that Fox paid USA Networks to cancel the show. Scifi recived the rerun rights to The X-Files, something they usually could not afford. Now Firefly can run on the same time slot that Farscape did. In stead of competing with Farscape, FF is kind of replacing it. The only reason FS would be taken off the air in real life is beacuse of its high production values. Scifi is apparently content to run reruns of the Dead Zone and SG1 and use the FS money to make more really crappy movies or mini-series. Maybe the next Dune series will actually have a desert and not have a painted wall as a back ground for the great desert.

PS. By the previews, FF is very much a Farscape rip off. A smart *** gun slinger, a tough chick, a big tough guy, a ****, a whiney chick out of her element, a priestess, and they are all on the run from an evil military on board a freighter. The commit crimes to stay alive. Yeah, that is the cast, and very basic plot of Farscape. But then I always though B5 was a cheezy DS9 rip off.

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Conspiracy theories aside, it is entirely possible that the show is the number one rated show on scifi channel and still losing money because of the higher production costs that you mentioned. Since televsion networks are in business to make money, not because it makes them happy just to have people watching their show. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It may just be that even though the Ratings were good, they weren't good enough to turn a profit.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This holds true with ALL shows these days.

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Firefly is this :
A show that takes place in the west where are cast looks like cowboys from the west that travel around the rest via a spaceship out in the west. This is billed as the Anti-Star Trek.

I can see Fox paying off USA to pull farscape. With the X-Files dead, anything in a competing time slot except Stargate and the Simpsons will get utterly destroyed.

I hate Fox.

Also, Sci-Fi channel is supposed to be producing a mini-series based off the games myst and riven.

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Yah, it is sad to see farscape go, I thought they had renewed it for another season. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif Geuss not. I can't see them wraping it up by the end of this season, I hope they end it good, not with a crappy cliffhanger. I would really like to see chriton get home, but realise his home is space now.

As for Firefly: It could be good. Don't judge things by the billing. I will wait to see it before I judge. I hope it is good.

Sci Fi is dying.... very sad. Very sad indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually the truth is probably the other way around in many ways.

What happened is that JMS (creator of B5), was going to many different film studios to try and find someone willing to fund and air his series... since they already had star trek, he decided to visit them first (can't remember what they are called on the top of my head though)

So he talked with them about it, and left them his huge "bible" of B5 material to study, which they did for a month or so...

Then they returned it and said they weren't interested in creating competitors to star trek, so JMS continued his search (ending up at Warner Bros.)

Then, some time later... wham... Deep Space 9 suddenly appears from nowhere... now I'm not saying the creators read all the things in JMS's notes and decided to make a star trek copy, but quite "coincidentaly" it has more than a few likenesses to B5 as mentioned, and it was written after the creators had access to JMS's notes...

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And he also considered sueing them for the ripoff actually... but he was more interested in getting his own series aired than starting a huge fight...

[ September 08, 2002, 20:14: Message edited by: AeoN2 ]

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I'm with the Owlman...I hate FOX and they are underhanded punks. They try to screw Marvel and Tribune with Mutant X...why? Because of Dark Angel...which was yanked after 2 seasons. They 2nd season of the show tried to go the mutant route and got creamed! FOX will resort to any means to get better Ratings, but they are cracking on all front!

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Actually, anyshow involved with Tribune gets royally screwed up.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually the truth is probably the other way around in many ways.

What happened is that JMS (creator of B5), was going to many different film studios to try and find someone willing to fund and air his series... since they already had star trek, he decided to visit them first (can't remember what they are called on the top of my head though)

So he talked with them about it, and left them his huge "bible" of B5 material to study, which they did for a month or so...

Then they returned it and said they weren't interested in creating competitors to star trek, so JMS continued his search (ending up at Warner Bros.)

Then, some time later... wham... Deep Space 9 suddenly appears from nowhere... now I'm not saying the creators read all the things in JMS's notes and decided to make a star trek copy, but quite "coincidentaly" it has more than a few likenesses to B5 as mentioned, and it was written after the creators had access to JMS's notes...

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And he also considered sueing them for the ripoff actually... but he was more interested in getting his own series aired than starting a huge fight...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, if you won't say it, I will. DS9 was a sleazy, deliberate and obvious attempt to 'stamp out' potential competition to the Star Drek Cash Cow and it definitely used huge amounts of detailed material from JMS own outline submitted to Paramount when he was shopping around. You can see story after story in the DS9 'arc' that appears just WEEKS before the same episodes in B5 using the same material. They were obviously hoping that most people would see the Trek episode first and think that B5 was the rip-off, since most people don't visit fan websites or go to conventions or anything like that. Too bad nearly all serious SciFi fans already knew that Trek was too brainless to have anything like a 'story arc', and they could put 2+2 together when JMS said in the fan forums on Usenet and at the conventions that he had submitted his story to Paramount before acceptance by WB. Paramount also aggressively recruited all of the actors who were working on B5, and successfully stole some of them -- forcing some minor revisions of the story line to cover the gaps, and they even pressured stations which were showing the syndicated B5 to move it to some graveyard shift time slot away from Trek or they'd pull their rights to show Trek.

If JMS had bothered to sue he'd undoubtedly have won big, not only on 'theft of intellectual property' but on anti-competitve business practices for the pressure on the independent tv stations. He might well have won enough damages to force Paramount into major financial peril, but in order to do that he'd have had to abandon the project itself, which consumed just about every waking moment of his life for those five years. If he'd not been able to hold it together against the constant attack from Paramount I guess he'd have had plenty to do for the next 5 or 10 years while the lawsuit worked its way through the system. I went sour on Trek some years before TNG ended, but when I saw the unbelievable sleaziness of Paramount in their cynical exploitation of both Trek and someone else's creative work I was pretty much guaranteed of never liking anything produced by Paramount again.

[ September 09, 2002, 01:32: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

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This really F***in sucks. B5 and farscape are or should i say WERE my favorite Sci-fi series ever. and both have gone down in flames... sort of. i really really hope another station picks up FS if thats possible. also has anyone heard anything about B5: Legend of the Rangers becoming a series?

also DS9 is the most blatant copy of another series ive ever seen, both station got upgraded at the same time, both had wars at the same time, i mean come on, really.

[ September 09, 2002, 02:08: Message edited by: The Canuck ]

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Well, that really sucks about Farscape. I also haven't been able to watch most episodes due to various reasons. Mainly that the wife isn't a big sci-fi fan and is the "queen of the remote"! I bought the first 2 DVD's when they came out, but haven't been able to get the rest of the series yet. I also like B5 better than DS9, but had trouble watching the entire sereis of both shows. I do think B5 was the better show. I didn't know about JMS going to Paramount first, but I'm not surprised that they may have stolen the idea.

Speaking of the Sci-Fi channel, I hear that they are trying to revive some old shows, such as Battlestar Galactica, Quantum Leap (without the original actors) and a couple of other shows. These I will have to watch if they are ever produced. Also, I hear that NBC is trying to revive Lost In Space (God, please let them do a serious show, like they did in the movie. I couldn't stand all of that camp in the original series). Also, Fox is supposed to resurrecting The Time Tunnel, one of my favorite shows as a kid. Can't wait.

[ September 09, 2002, 02:44: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

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Time tunnel, there's an old friend long lost.

I heard somewhere johnathan frakes is involved in a remake of the prisoner.

I should point out something here, everything coming out is a remake.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, if you won't say it, I will. DS9 was a sleazy, deliberate and obvious attempt to 'stamp out' potential competition to the Star Drek Cash Cow and it definitely used huge amounts of detailed material from JMS own outline submitted to Paramount when he was shopping around.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Paramount... Guess I had subconsciously wiped my memory of that name http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

I had the pleasure to meet Patricia Tallman (plays the telepath Lyta Alexander) at a convention I attended, and she left me with no doubt in my mind that JMS and the cast are all incredibly nice and funny people... Too bad nice guys finish Last...

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[ September 09, 2002, 05:43: Message edited by: AeoN2 ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, you noticed that, too? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif It won't be long now before they start making remakes of really campy shows like The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, and.... Oh, wait a minute..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ September 09, 2002, 09:05: Message edited by: dumbluck ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is the exact reason that the original Battlestar Galactica was cancelled. The high production costs forced the network to pull the plug. Ratings wise, it was the most watched show of its time. Celebrities were lining up to do walk on bit parts.

Unfortunately, qualtiy television costs money. Trash you can find, in the can outside, for free.
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can you imagine the production costs for a series based on SE4 would be, it would be highly rated like Galactica and some of the others, but would probably be cancelled because of costs, yet I would think with Tech today that graphics would be cheaper due to computers then the older ways

mac

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"Best Sci-Fi series ever"

Hardly.

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Kwok, what do you consider the best Scifi series ever? Name another Scifi show were the ENTIRE CAST could act. Yeah...

TOS: Worse acting and writting than Lost in Space.
ST:TNG: No story arcs at all
Voyager: Sucked
DS9: Best Trek, even if it was a rip off of B5, actually people besides the Captain that could act, story lines were actually connected sometimes.
B5: Could never watch more than five minutes, the damn race of Napoleans freaked me out.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Get out of my sight!
And Napoleons? They weren't Napoleons! They were imperialistic!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You know I always liked "Space: Above and Beyond"......
It probally doesn't qualify for the bgest sci fi but it comes close for me.

_Tim

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I did some more checking, did you know Farscape was filmed on Fox Studios Austrailia?

I bet that had a major part in killing it.

As for a SE4 based TV series, I think it would be very affordable if done with all-CGI characters. Live action and puppet contruction would raise costs drastically. CGI is the way to go.

Now another issue with that pops up, most TV markets are strongly against an cgi series geared for intelligent people. This is a result of various high-named actors condemning the movies like Final Fantasy & S1MONE for use of CGI actors. (S1MONe didn't use a CGi actress, but they made everyone think it).

Japan and Korea would be great markets for a CGi SE4 series.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why? and Why only the Far East?

Europe and Australia, also Canada will probably take it up a lot. America and others... It's a maybe.

Edit: Simone used a Canadian model.

[ September 10, 2002, 03:25: Message edited by: TerranC ]

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I just watched a season one episode of ST:TNG called The Neutral Zone where they rescue some crionically frozen folks from the 20th Century. Picard strongly emphasizes how people in the 24th century don't pursue material possessions anymore.

Bagh!! I'm a big fan of Star Trek. But this philosophy that everyone is going to spend all their time in the future trying to better themselves is just a bit too much to stomach.

I really like Babylon 5. It seems a much more realistic look at the future. Everything is pretty much the same as it is now but the technology is a little improved.

I think B5 should rate as the best sci-fi show simply because of the consistent plot throughout the entire series.

Farscape? Isn't that muppets in space?

The Prisoner was an interesting show. I think it might be interesting to see a modern Version of that.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed. And also (as you suggested) becasue it is such a realistic vision of the future. Neither dystopian nor utopian.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, but Muppets in Space was a damn fine film. In fact, I'd have to say it was the best Sci-fi film/ show EVER, because everything else sucks and what I like is best.

Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was Roddenberry's vision of the future. It does tend to make Trek a little preachey at times. You almost find yourself rooting for the bad guys just because they are so much more interesting.

I hate to say it, and wouldn't dare to say it at a Trek converntion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif , but I think TNG got better after Gene died. DS9 was definetly better. I even liked Voyager, although that gets a lot of scorn from most people, though I am not exactly sure why.

What I have seen of B5 I liked. It's one of my regrets that I never got to watch it from the begining. In my town it always was getting bumped around to different times, and sometimesz different channels in the early seasons. By the time it settled down and was always on one channel at one time I had missed so much of the storyline that I felt lost.

Maybe somebody will rebroadcast it from the begining some day, or I'll get rich and buy the DVD's. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

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The reason I love Farscape is that the show is about the characters, not the trappings around them (although Moya does count as a character to me). The show's "don't sweat the details" approach to high-tech is a vast departure from modern scifi, and it worked. The character interaction is what made people fans of the show. Too many scifi shows focus on the gadgets and whatnots. Whenever the Ratings started to slip these shows would have to one-up themselves to pull their audience back in- "Captain our Ratings are dropping! Quick, blow up the ship so we can get a new one!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Oh well, enough rambling. Suffice to say I'm sadded by the loss of my friends on Moya. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Hmmm.. speculation aside, I consider that it is interesting to see how people reacted to the various Trek derivatives. I think it is fair to say that DS9 was well received, and those of us who like classic space-opera-esque plot lines with massive battles etc probably found that to be the best one. VOY appears to be universally recognised as the weakest link.

Enterprise has only been on for about 6 weeks over here in the UK but I think the general perception is that it is good. I personally do like the show but do not see how it fits in with any of the "established" history. I mean, IIRC, the first romulan wars were fought with lasers and nuclear missile 'blind' between Earth and the Romulans, neither side knew what the other looked like. Also, wasn't Sol system meant to be attacked 4 times by the Kzinti pre-Federation days? and since when were the Vulcans a horrible bunch of nasty oiks scrapping with the Andorians?

My personal favourite is B5. Good earthy storylines with a bot of ahem, risque/violent overtones and a long running plot. Also, nice to see the humans being one of th weaker races in the galaxy and not a bunch of noble, altruistic heroes

I did like Space: ABAB if only cos it was on late Friday nights just as I got home from the pub. Did they only make 1 series of that? I remeber the Last episode had a peace treaty where Aerotech and the Chigs were going to be shown to have some connection but that is as far as I recall. Anyone clarify this?

[ September 10, 2002, 13:27: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">More like Quick bring back the Borg.

I believe that B5 was so good because it's plot was a set of designed events leading to end. The was no quest too seek out new seasons. In fact the only times that the plot suffered was when they were going to get canceled early and the creator excelerated the plot line. But then they got renewed so he had to try and slow it back down. In fact to make sure the series ended they scrapped the station in the final episode.

B5 Excalibur was going to be a great series (plenty of complex characters with room to grow) until Turner demanded that the creator sex it up more. The creator said no the series is fine. Turner said if you don't do what I say the series is canceled. The creator replied then I guess I'm cancelled. ( Screw you Turner you couldn't leave a good thing alone)

DS9 was really god too. They didn't have to resort to the Borg like TNG and Voyager (and Voyager had to resort to Busty Blonds in skin tight uniforms. ( Not that there is anything wrong with that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )).

One of my favorite DS9 episodes was when Q shows up on the station.
Q: "You hit me! Picard never hit me!
Cisco: "I am NOT Picard!

Of course DS9 didn't get really good until Cisco Shaved his head and went back to his Hawk persona from Spencer for Hire.

[ September 10, 2002, 14:00: Message edited by: Perrin ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uhhh... vaguely. I had something to do with the Chigs have originated on Earth before humans arrived and/ or evolved there, so they thought they hasd a claim to it.
There was something about treacherous peace-treaty negotiations as well, probably in the same episode, but it was along time ago and I never watched that show sober.

Actually, despite all my whingings about S:A&B, one thing I did like was the fact that very little was known about the Chigs. You never saw under their armour and only at the very end of the series did anyone successfully communicate with them. That was good, and probably quite realistic. If we ever do meet alien life forms it will be very difficult to learn to talk to them. .

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really? strange how the CHigs originated on Earth when they couldn't breathe oxygen or something.

I liked the spaceships in S:ABAB. The carriers I thought looked very cool and the hammerhead fighter were well groovy with those rear cannon

Anyone see those two episodes with Chiggy Von Richtofen?

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[quote]Originally posted by Perrin:

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One of my favorite DS9 episodes was when Q shows up on the station. Q: "You hit me! Picard never hit me! Cisco: "I am NOT Picard!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not only was that a very funny line, it had a dark undertone because at the time Cisco was very much still blaming Picard for the death of his wife at Wolf 359. That was one of the best things about DS9 was the characters had so much depth. The writing on that show was just so much better than any other Trek.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Like I say, I was drunk. I think it was something to do with bacteria floating around on rocks in space... the bacteria that evolved into Chigs started on an Earth rock, and the human bacteria originated on Mars.
I think. Maybe. I dunno. It all sounds about right, but it would have been about '97 I saw this, and at the time reeling under the appalling hallucinatory influence of student homebrew lager. That's the Last time I watched any S:A&B though.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I remember them looking like modern aircraft carriers in dumped space. I was surprised they bothered taking the propellors & rudders off. Still, no accounting for taste...

[ September 10, 2002, 14:45: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

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[quote]Originally posted by dogscoff:

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and at the time reeling under the appalling hallucinatory influence of student homebrew lager. That's the Last time I watched any S:A&B though. I was surprised they bothered taking the propellors & rudders off. Still, no accounting for taste...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I suspect your homebrew was made out of head and shoulders shampoo and washing up liquid.

and I LIKED THE CARRIERS, they looked like chunky mean rectangular things with a rear bridge and stacks of cannon and rocket launchers... and this critcism from a man who thinks spaceships have horns and dragonheads...

lord knows when you will do a Captain Pugwash or Noggin the Nog race

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BURN!* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

*King's English translation: "Touche Gt!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ September 10, 2002, 15:25: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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So Farscape gets cancelled, but somehow Lexx continues to live. Life is unfair.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They do. Mine do anyway. I mean, I've never seen a real, live spaceship without horns and dragonheads...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not in any way suggesting that Lexx is superior to FS (I realy liked FS) but I seem to remember watching lexx and thinking that while it definitely had its downside (ie impossible to follow the plot without taking LSD first) it also had a few good things. Some of the alien designs were cool, and it was pretty... umm.. imaginative in general. Again, this was aired in the UK in the Great Memory Lapse of 1995-1999, when I was "studying".

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Actually, I started watching Lexx sometime near the end of the first or beginning of the 2nd season (?) out of curiosity. I agree with you - it was pretty bad, but there were enough interesting things in the show that kept me watching. Once, I saw the original 4 movies the series was based on, and was actually stunned at how GOOD the first one was. (The other were really bad, as usual). But once they started that new season with Fire & Water and that Prince guy, I couldn't take it anymore.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They do. Mine do anyway. I mean, I've never seen a real, live spaceship without horns and dragonheads...[/quote]

hmm, me thinks you are suffering long term effects from that student homebrew of yours, unless it is because you really are a lager wendy.

What do you define as a "spaceship"? I consider the space shuttle to be a 'spaceship' and I haven't seen any horns or dragonheads on that, galileo and voyager were spaceships and were noted for lack of norse paraphanalia..

I didnt see many Farscapes but I did like that D'argo character (how many todgers does he have growing out of his head?) and as for that Aeryn bird, WOOF WOOF WOOOF WOOOF, brunettes in PVC catsuits with laser guns do it for me everytime (especially when she was in that monster movie pitch black)

AWOOG AWOOGA AWOOGA

[ September 10, 2002, 15:39: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Those are real? I assumed they were just computer generated US propaganda, like the moon landings and Jimi Hendrix.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not disagreeing with you, but I think I'd go for the short blue one (not the mystic, dead blue one) every time.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">V. cool film. Agreed.

Is this going to descend into a fanboy-favourites thread where we all drool over the obligatory T&A cynically crowbarred into Sci fi? I hope so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Not disagreeing with you, but I think I'd go for the short blue one (not the mystic, dead blue one) every time.

Well, we therefore have the perfect double date, you get the freaky blue bird who looks like the lenor has stained, I get the roughty toughty brunette with biceps and thigh muscles that could crack coconuts - YIPEEE!!!!

Is this going to descend into a fanboy-favourites thread where we all drool over the obligatory T&A cynically crowbarred into Sci fi?

I hope so to, my top 3 would be 7of9 (where does she get those zero gravity hooters and frankly, out of 10, I'd give her one), Wilma Deering from the original Buck Rogers (schoolboy fantasy or what) and I quite like the Andromeda avatar from Andromeda (exotic, erotic and looks like she would do a mean nasi goreng)

[ September 10, 2002, 16:41: Message edited by: Growltigga ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jimi Hendrix was the second best left handed guitarist ni the history of the galaxy, after yours truly

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do not forget the lesson of Galaxy Quest what may be a television show to us may be reality to some alien culture.

[ September 10, 2002, 16:47: Message edited by: Perrin ]

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I'm interested in Firefly. Will it make it? Probably not.

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Can you north americans give FireFly a bit of support cos' if it gets cancelled, us europeans wont get to see it.

A quick aside, was Farscape anything to do with Australia as a lot of the actors seemed to have antipodean accents?