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Timstone September 27th, 2002 06:38 PM

Pictures
 
I've played Imperium Galactica quite some times and it really a cool game once you get the hang of it. One of the coolest features from the game were those small movies every time you selected a unit or building. Fantastic! Can something like that be done in SE IV: Gold (or SE IV Regular)?

Gryphin September 27th, 2002 06:44 PM

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Timstone,
Not yet and probably not ever. Based on writings in other threads it seems most folks wold rather Arron work on other features than graphics.

Timstone September 27th, 2002 07:36 PM

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Hmm... too bad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I was hoping for a yes and a thankyou-for-a-great-idea, but that won't be the case now I understand. Again, too bad.

Gryphin September 27th, 2002 07:51 PM

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Timstone,
As you get further into the game and look at the list of hopes for SE V, you will realize
"All that is does not glitter"

Arkcon September 27th, 2002 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Timstone,
As you get further into the game and look at the list of hopes for SE V, you will realize
"All that is does not glitter"

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gryphin ... stepping on Gandalf's lines... tsk

Timstone ... lots of stuff gets panned promptly and then re-evaluated in another way. But cooler graphics and animation generally lose. We'll see what SE5 can do.

Timstone September 27th, 2002 08:11 PM

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I sure hope we hear anything soon from Malfador about SE V. I don't care for Dungeon Odessy much (is that slander?), but I can't wait for the new installment of SE.

Arkcon September 27th, 2002 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Timstone:
I sure hope we hear anything soon from Malfador about SE V. I don't care for Dungeon Odessy much (is that slander?), but I can't wait for the new installment of SE.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Really ? ... I mean seriously, have you exausted all options with SE4? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Sometimes, I get a little bored with playing the AI but, the game isn't dull for me yet.

Gryphin September 27th, 2002 08:28 PM

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Arkcon ,
That line is from the book, "The Lord of the Rings" by JRR Tolkien. Not the movie by ...
It is in the first part of the poem, "The Riddle of Strider".
I've been quoting it since I first read the book at age 13.
The full poem is here at my web site:
http://www.windingstream.com/favorit...#RiddleStrider
where it was long befor I knew of this BBS.
(yes I'm being a bit defensive).

[ September 27, 2002, 19:38: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

kalthalior September 27th, 2002 08:32 PM

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I'd have to echo Arkcon's comment -- I have generally played only single player vs. TDM AI. I just opened up a huge can of worms for myself by starting my first single-player game of Porportions a couple of weeks ago. The number of mods in the universe is just staggering, and I haven't even scratched the surface. If only I were independently wealthy and could devote myself 24 x 7 to SE....

[ September 27, 2002, 19:33: Message edited by: kalthalior ]

Arkcon September 27th, 2002 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by kalthalior:
If only I were independently wealthy and could devote myself 24 x 7 to SE....
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not wealthy, but I've come close to living next to the computer when I first got SE4.

I got a friend hooked on the demo, and he got a friend hooked, and his wife uninstalled it, something about him not doing any chores and skipping two classes one day http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Baron Munchausen September 27th, 2002 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Timstone:
I've played Imperium Galactica quite some times and it really a cool game once you get the hang of it. One of the coolest features from the game were those small movies every time you selected a unit or building. Fantastic! Can something like that be done in SE IV: Gold (or SE IV Regular)?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Besides being a waste of the programmer's time, animations are a waste of the PLAYER'S time -- and disk space. I play 4X games to think about strategy, not see cute little movies repeated over and over and over and... ad nauseum. And even with a 40 Gb disk I prefer my data space be used for code that does something rather than a zillion little movies that are only interesting once and then become a waste. I'll watch the 'diplomatic animations' in MOO 3 exactly once, then turn them off. Maybe I can then get away with deleting them? Some very small touches, like animated features moving on the faces of stars and planets in the information screen image, would probably enhance the game. More than that is not for 4X games.

[ September 27, 2002, 21:11: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

Arkcon September 27th, 2002 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
not see cute little movies repeated over and over and over and... ad nauseum. And even with a 4 Gb disk I prefer my data space be used for code that does something rather than a zillion little movies that are only interesting once and then become a waste. Some very small touches, like animated features moving on the faces of stars and planets, would probably enhance the game. More than that is not for 4X games.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, after a few times no one wants to watch those animations. I had some colonizaton game for my old PC, made by Sierra, was it called Outpost? At any rate, I had a better PC than the game said it needed. (I did get the copy from the CompUSA bargin bin after all) But it would still hang on some animations. Sheesh.

Now a friend dredged up a copy of Star Control 2, and the gas giants swirl around. So I said cool. Then Uranus seemd to look odd, it was swirling with the correct axial tilt! That was an impressive surprise.

[ September 27, 2002, 21:22: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Arkcon September 29th, 2002 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Timstone:
No, of course not good man! But I'm just curious what they're going to make it look like. I want more of the same. Yeah, bring it on! hehe
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In an interview before the release of SE4, Aaron Hall said that he wanted the planets to be moving. I don't know if he meant a position change from turn to turn or if he meant real time. At any rate, it proved to be too difficult to code for someting that was also too processor intensive. We'll see.

[ September 29, 2002, 13:29: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Timstone September 29th, 2002 03:19 PM

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I hyope it will be entirelly 3D, that would very cool. Maybe even forces a breakthrough in turnbases startegy. Maybe the masses will come to like these sort of games. That can be both good and bad.
Good: More publicity, more willingness from publishers to publish these sort of games.
Bad: A too big community, no more cool forums like this one.

Captain Kwok September 29th, 2002 09:09 PM

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I wouldn't mind little rotating animated bitmaps for planets...but that would add a lot more MBs for pics.

In SE:V, I would like to see a 3D galaxy with 2D systems and orbiting planets. It wouldn't have to necessarily be a coordinate system, you could have each planet move one-square around the star per month - that would be an easy way to work it in - since each planet is at a specified "ring" distance anyway (look at systemtypes.txt). I'm thinking it could still be done for SE:IV now!

Timstone September 30th, 2002 01:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Arkcon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Timstone:
I sure hope we hear anything soon from Malfador about SE V. I don't care for Dungeon Odessy much (is that slander?), but I can't wait for the new installment of SE.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Really ? ... I mean seriously, have you exausted all options with SE4? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Sometimes, I get a little bored with playing the AI but, the game isn't dull for me yet.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, of course not good man! But I'm just curious what they're going to make it look like. I want more of the same. Yeah, bring it on! hehe

Ragnarok October 1st, 2002 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Timstone:
A little OT. How can I include my own avatar? And how big can it be (pixels)?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It has to be 48 by 48 pixels in size. To change it, go to My profile. Then go to Veiw/Update profile. Then scroll down till you see "Avatar Image" on the left side. Then click the blue link that says "Select a different Avatar Image". you can pick either the ones that are shown. (a few pages of them) or put your own on there. To do that just fill in the URL that you're using to host your image. If you don't have server space just upload to the Shrapnel server and pull from there. That should do it.

Timstone October 1st, 2002 06:47 PM

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Wow, wait for me! I don't know how to uload it to the Shrapnel server. Please explain how I do that.

Ragnarok October 1st, 2002 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Timstone:
Wow, wait for me! I don't know how to uload it to the Shrapnel server. Please explain how I do that.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm. Good question. I can't seem to find the upload page either. Maybe someone else here will show you.

Timstone October 1st, 2002 07:40 PM

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Surely hope so, I can't wait to put my first (home made) avatar in my profile.

Suicide Junkie October 1st, 2002 08:22 PM

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The upload form only appears when you are posting in the upload forum.

Click "Intel Forums", and check out the first forums listed there.
Pick a thread in that upload forum, and "post reply"
On the left, where it currently says "Uploading not allowed in this forum" to me, you will see "View Upload Form" or some such link.

Click that, and you can upload a file. Take careful note of the name it gives you, since the name will be a many digit number, and there is no way to recover that number if you forget it.

Timstone October 2nd, 2002 01:48 AM

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A little OT. How can I include my own avatar? And how big can it be (pixels)?

Timstone October 2nd, 2002 03:59 PM

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Thanks SJ!


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