Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

The public beta will be uploaded to the PPB (Play By Web)site sometime this evening, luck permitting. The offical ASTmod Add On Pack will also be availible for download.

The AST mod is around 20 megs, while the AST add on pack is around 10 megs.

Please read the Getting Started read-me before playing, as you will also need to install the planet, component, and facility image mods.

All suggestions and or comments, good or bad, are welcome. Just post them at shrapnel, or Fyrons forum. You can even email them too me.

Again thanks, and please let me know what you think of the mod after you have had a chance to play it.

William

[ February 10, 2004, 02:19: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Important

You will need to download the Fyron Q-mod v 2.0 and copy the System file from it to the Pictures folder of the AST mod. Play By Web will not allow me to upload a file the size as the Fyron has. I will resize the images and then post AST Mod P2 on Saturday.

But the mod and the add on are there for download. Just copy the Fyron Q-mod 2.o System folder to the AST mod Pictures folder and your done.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Is FQM 2.0 the deluxe Version? If so, I would recommend using Fyron's smaller Version for the ASTmod as it makes it easier to deal with, only losing a few nebula entries.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Good idea. Thanks Kwok. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Just launched a solo game, took the federation techs, and do you know what ?????

When I first build a daystrom institute 1, MY RESEARCH WAS MAX BY 10 !!!!!!

From 47000 research points, I went straight for 470000 points !!!!

Oh guys I just LOVE this facility !!!

Heeyy ?????? Whatdaya mean it should not work that way ????

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

I like it that way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Seriously I'll look in to it.

The facility is set up according to the system facility.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">System Computer Complex
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As you can see, they are the same.

So the problem might have been compounded by other facilities in the same system. But in all the games I have played, even with the AI using multi daystrom facilities, there research is often equal to mine or just slightly higher, but never on a factor of 100 to 1. Can you send me your saved game file? pcpatrocities@hotmail.com

Thanks.

[ December 01, 2002, 07:52: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Are you sure the Value is correct?

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Atrocities the problem is:

Ability 1 Type := System Point Generation Modifier - Research
Ability 1 Descr := Increase all research in a system by 10%.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 10
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := System Point Generation Modifier - Research
Ability 2 Descr := Generates 700 research points each turn.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 700
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0

You use "System Point Generation Modifier - Research" both times...so it is multiplied by 710%...which is a lot! The second value should be using "Point Generation - Research" ability instead!

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks guys. Ya Kwok, I cought that Last night. Funny huh, how the simple things just slip buy ya. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

This bug was one of the simplest to make, yet easily overlooked by me. Thank you guys for the help on it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I knew it was too good to be true! Does this mean my win doesn't count? I like having half of the techs researched by turn 50. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Atrocities, I just want to say: Excellent job on the mod. I have only messed around with it for a couple minutes but I love it so far. I look forward to playing some more games with it. Once again, Kudos!

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

There may be a similar problem with warp core engine. When I add one to a speed 6 ship it jumps up to speed 32.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks Rich. I noticed that with the AI as well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Remember, a lot of the new tech has to be crossed researched. So some of the Race tech levels may show up as empty. Once you research an area such as computers all the way out, then things such as the Genesis device can become availible provided you have researched Gravitational and Stellor tech.

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Quote:
In the Design Types file, there are no specific Colony Ship designs listed.

I did this because most people name there colony ships what they are, Rock, Gas, or Ice. Whether or not these are listed in the design list is irrelivant. However if a player would like them there, then they can simply create them, or edit the defualt design types.txt file.

Quote:
Are basic tech colony ships supposed to be able to hold ~200 mil pop?

If I understand you correctly then yes. The colony tech has not been altered. However, the colony ship design has had its tonage increased to 400. More realistic IMHO.

Quote:
Are the Ferengi supposed to start on Gas Giants?

Yes.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

.9996
1. Added Tech Area/Level Energy Pulse Weapons/12 all Disruptor Cannon I - V (Must now max out on laser before moving to disruptors)
2. Changed Disruptor Cannon Image from 98 to 317
3. Made Disruptor I - V equal in Damage at Rng to Phaser I - V
4. Added Corezanium Plated Armor I - II to Early Technology Tech Tree level 2 and 3
5. Changed image for Warp Core Quantum Singularity Engine I - III from 335 ti 889, 890, 891
6. Changed image for Transwarp Drive from 325 to 894
7. Changed image for Transphisic Drive from 325 to 895
8. Changed image for Slipsteam Drive from 293 to 896
9. Added Cloning Facility I - II to Early technology Tech Tree Level 2 and 3
10. Added Super shipyard I - II to Early Technology Tech Tree Level 2 and 3
11. Added High Yeild Mining Facility to Early Technology Tech Tree Level 3
12. Added High Yeild Mining Facility to Developed Technology Tech Tree Level 2

.9995
1. Changed Klingon "Klingon_AI_Construction_Vehicles.txt" file. (made it more growth friendly)
2. Deleted AI_Constuction, AI_Vehicles, AI_Planets, and AI_Strategies from Andorian, Dominion, DS9, Gorn, Hirogen, Kazon, Sona, TMP,
Tholians, TOS, UCP, and Vulcan races
3. Discontinued using extra nebulea from Fyron Q-mod. (reduces size of mod Zip.) The rest of the mod remains in use.
4. Removed all excess bitmaps from all race folders
5. Removed all excess text documents from all race folders
6. Udpated the Getting Started Read-Me file. (Formally Read-me text document)
7. Corrected error in Daystrom Institute I - III that was giving a massive % bonus.
8. Added restriction of One Per Vehicle to Slipsteam Drive.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Browsing through components.txt, noticed a few possible typos in the NAME field:
-
Ferengi Salvvage Crew(I-V) (or maybe that's how the ferengi spell it?)
-
Sesor Array
-
Crystal Enhanced Laser -- (missing the I and II for the first two levels, and the third level name is blank).
-
Poloron (instead of polaron) beams

Also, the 5th level shipyards jump pretty far ahead of 4th level shipyards in production ability - was that intended?

-Spoon

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Never been able to terraform a radiated planet with either genesis device or the athmospheric conVersion 3.

Is that ok ?

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Will get those spelling errors take care of.

The mod uses the Fyron Q-mod 2.0. It does not allow for terraforming of some worlds. I have talked to Fyron about this, and he has explained why this is. You'll have to ask him to explain it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

I noticed something else in the game. I go to build a colony ship, and I select the 400KT size ship. It has the restrictions of the bridge and so forth so I fill that part of it up. It also has the restriction of 50% of space must be used for colony componants. So I put one on there and all is well. I fill up the rest of the space with cargo containers, etc. But when I use the Advanced Colonization mount and I put one on it's still needing 50% of the space for that.

Wait, as I was typing this I was messing around with it again to recreate the problem. And before I would put two colony things on it and it would be over the size limit because I had some other stuff in it. But now I just have the bare essentials and two fit fine, and that does the job. So nevermind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I was just tired Last night and didn't mess around enough.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For all of the Early, Developed, and Expanded tech yes that is correct.

For the Race Tech, I have lowered them all to something a tad bit more realistic. Thanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

I have ran into an intersting problem that I can not seem to figure out.

I have set the maximum number of engines allowable on all ships to a maximum of 2. However, the AI is building Attack Ships with 3 engines. When I try to do this, I get the restriction that only 2 engines are allowable.

This bug only seems to be used on AI designed Attack Ships of all designs.

All other designs appear to follow the rule.

I am fiddling with the DesignCreation.txt now to try and figure this bug out, but I was hoping that someone here may have already encountered the bug, and had over come it.

Thanks

[ December 02, 2002, 21:43: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Irradiated is a planet size, not an atmosphere. So, you can not convert them from Irradiated with an Atmosphere Converter. You'd actually do harm by converting the atmosphere, because a domed colony on an Irradiated planet has more space than an undomed colony on the same planet has.

Planet Destroying (PD) devices operate by the position of the planet size in PlanetSizes.txt. As the Irradiated planet is somewhere around the end of the file, a PD would need to have an ability number somewhere between 30 and 50. It would then be able to destroy _anything_ above the Irradiated planet, including Ring- and Sphereworlds, and Asteroid Belts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

That is the technical reason why it is impossible to destroy an Irradiated planet (or a Machine world, or Ringed planet, etc.). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Think of them as something special and unique in the galaxy.

If you insist upon wanting to make them into normal planets, you could always detonate the star in the system and rebuild them (and everything else). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ December 02, 2002, 23:04: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My understanding is that the AI will first put the number of engines to satisfy the "Minimum Speed" setting, then fill remaining spaces to satisfy the "Maximum Speed" from that file, so you may want to look at that.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks G. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Good point.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Here is the latest Version up-date. Thanks for all the bug and error reports. The ideas and suggestions are great. Please keep them coming.

I will post the latest Version of the ASTmod Beta either tomorrow or Thursday.

The 3 engine bug for Attack Ship (Destroyer) seems to be an SEIV bug. Sorry, looks like we're going to have to live with it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

.9997
1. Changed all Facility Group names from Temperal, Religious, Physic, Organic, to the names of the races they belong too.
2. Corrected spelling of Sensor Array
3. Added I - II to the Component Name Crystal Enhanced Laser I - II
4. Added the component Name Crystal Enhanced Laser III to that component. (Did not have a name.)
5. Corrected the spelling of Ferengi Salvage Crew I - V
6. Added Projectile Weapons to all Race_AI_Research.txt files
7. Added Small Depleted Uranium Cannon I - III back to Components.txt
8. Lowered the Breen Advanced Shipyard Abilities from 6000 to 4000
9. Lowered the Federation Utopia Planitia Shipyard Abilities from 6000 to 4500.
10. Lowered the General Race Technology Enhanced Shipyard Abilities from 5200 to 3500
11. Added Tech Area/Level Space Yard levels 2 - 3 to number of Tech Req for Super Spaceyard I - II of Early, Developed, and Expanded Technologies
12. Added Tech Area/Level Stellar Manipulatin levels 2 & 3 to number of Tech Req for Klingon Mining Prison II - III
13. Fixed error in Warp Core Quantum Singularity Engine I, Extra Movement Generation of 24 is now 4
14. (Pending Approval of Suicide Junkie) Added Enhanced Components Micro Mount, Mini Mount, Small Mount, Small Shield Mount, from Pirates And Nomads Mod (By: Suicide Junkie) to EnhancedComponents.
15. (Pending Approval of Suicide Junkie)Added Components Heavy Shielding I - III, Hardened Mini-Shield Generator I - III, Mini-Shield Generator I - III, from Pirates And Nomads Mod (By: Suicide Junkie) to omponents.txt file.
16. Beefed up Research.txt for all races. Races will now research more aggressively.

[ December 03, 2002, 13:53: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Well, I don't mind you using the mounts and components, but I would like to ensure they are used "right"...

#14 and #7 should be mutually exclusive. The point of the mounts is to allow units to use tiny-mount ship weapons.

#15, if you're not using leaky shields, then sure.
I'd reccommend adding Crystalline-ability deflector shields too, if not the full leaky shield effect.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Atrocities, I found some bugs in the AST mod but I need a good e-mail address for you.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Click the Mail button at the top of his Posts.

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pcpatrocities@hotmail.com

Thank you Ed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

.9998
1. Fixed error in Quantum Reactor - Replicator
2. Fixed error in Transphysic Drive
3. Fixed error in Romulan Technology Cloaking Device III
4. Fixed error in Ferengi Technology Enhanced Phaser Beam IV
5. Fixed error in Temporal Sensors III
6. Added a save game folder

[ December 05, 2002, 11:32: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

If any one cares, the latest Version of the ASTmod is availible for download at PBW. ASTmod Part I contains the neutral race images, and the images for the 8 major races and all data files.

ASTmod Part II is data only. It will replace all the data files in the ASTmod .9995 with the latest files. (inlcuding one image)

AST add on Pack is unchanged. Download it to gain access to 12 more major races.

[ December 07, 2002, 22:28: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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Woohoo! I can't wait to download it. I think I'll go do that now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Sweet!

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

I hope you like it.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Atrocities, I love the Mod but i've got a nagging problem:

The pictures for about 1/4 of the Planets/Moons/Stars don't display on the main Solar System map. They just show up as black squares. When you actually click on the black spot (you can only tell something is there when you've got the "Show Planet Names" Option enabled) then the picture of the planet appears under the detailed screen.

Any idea how to correct this?

I've installed the the 3 Image Packs you recommended and installed the System files from the Fyron Mod too. I did get some "CRC" errors from the AST mod while extracting it though. Could that be the culprit?

Again though, I love the Mod so far http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'm running the existing UFP race and have run into the Hirogen, Sona, and Vulcans so far. I'm pretty sure I selected the "Medium" option for opponent number but the game is calculating moves for 16 races so I guess the gang's all there (A Large Dense Map might have something to do with it too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Read ya soon!

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

I have the identical black planet problem; no problems extracting either the mod or the latest planet pack, though. Problems not confined to any one type of planet, although several were the Irradiated "size."

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Reinstall the Planet Pack of the image mod and see if that helps. I recommend installing the Image Mod into the default pictures folders, to reduce redundancy. It does not affect the normal game in the slightest. Also, did you rename "NewPlanets.bmp" to "Planets.bmp"? That is the most probable cause of the problem you are having.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks Fyron! Your suggestion worked like a charm. Everything seems to be visible now.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Read ya later!

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Ok, I feel stupid now. I was posting this same problem a week ago, when I thought, "Did I rename the NewPlanets.bmp to Planets.bmp?" And, lo and behold, I hadn't, and that fixed the problem. Of course, I didn't remember that when I posted this time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Readme files are there for a reason... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thank you Fyron for helping them out. I truly appreciate all that you have done for me, and I love your Quadrant Mod. Best fun I have had yet with SEIV. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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It's not a problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks on FQM. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Thanks for the feed back guys. The offical Version 1.0 will be availible for download sometime this weekend. I'll post about it then.

At that point I doubt that I will do much more with it aside from needed AI updates or something.

If you want to improve the mod, make changes, correct problems, or just fiddle with it, by all means help yourselves. (Please keep a record of your modifications seprate from those that I have included.)

I have found that mod making is a very time consuming endevor with little pay off and no real sense of accomplishment. Your work is always a work in progress.

Enjoy and have fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I wanted to say that I am sorry that I have neglected my web site news and updates. Simply put I have not had the intrest or time to keep up with all of the current events. Since I am on dial up now, making updates has become a rather slow process, and that has kept me at bay as well.

However I will endevor to keep the site as current as possible for the time being.

[ December 13, 2002, 14:22: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

The latest Version of the AST mod has been released.
I have worked with CNC to get the update published.
AST Mod Version 1.9.6

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Great. I'm downloading it now. Can't wait to check it out tonight (after 24, of course).

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Is it me or does 24 seem less like 24 this year and more like a reality show based on Office politics?

I really do hate the office scenes where everyone has a cut throat, back stabbing agenda. My god if the real government office in charge of protecting us from terrorism is like that office, I'd fire every Last one of them and hire in some professionals who put the job first and the office bull **** a distant 10th.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Last month I've send some notes about AST to CNCRaymond via e-mail. I haven't got any replies and all the issues are still there (1.9.6). Though, it was minor bugs/annoyances, but should I send them again, in case of CNCRaymond didn't recieved my letter? Or AST development is already finished after 1.9.6?

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, 24 really went off-kilter for me in teh first episode. They skipped a whole year, saying basically, yeah, the president survived and we got the bad guys, and now we're going onto a new storyline. One thing I want to know. How are they going to top a nuclear explosion? A biological weapon is child's play compared to that. And another thing. Tony is shot in the neck, and 2 or 3 episodes later, he's back at work. Huh? I mean, come on, between the surgery and the recovery room, he should have been out for at least 5 or 6 hours (episodes?). I think Kim had every right to question his ability to be back at work, but he passed their test. Now Tony is going to Kim and wanting to know if that one girl is capable of working? come on. I think they need to focus back on Jack and maybe the President.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Resend them then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif He may not have gotten them.

I would do it soon as he is getting ready to leave town again, and I don't know if I can work on the mod or not.

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Well good news, the mod will continue to be supported for at least one more update. CNC's latest email on the topic stated that many people have been kind enough to send him bug reports and such that he would like to address. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif My thanks to all of you for taking the time to send CNC bug reports on the AST mod. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Atrocities Star Trek Mod (ASTmod) UPDATED 2-9-04
 

Man I just got copies of some of the bug reports. Wow is all I can say. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Great work on those bug report people. Great work.