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http://www.paradoxplaza.com/hearts.asp

Any one been following or playing this game ???

http://www.militarygamerOnline.com/i...rticle&sid=283

some screen shots

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Just bought it a couple days ago http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif So far looks pretty cool.

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It's a pretty cool game, but it has serious balance issues if you play the 1936 scenario.

Right now I am playing Nationalist China and I am in 1936 and I just finished bringing all of the Chinese warring factions under my belt and I have my eye on Siam for it's Rubber and Oil.

It's a dream game for me as my first serious wargame was TSR's (SPI remake) PTO. I have ALWAYS wanted a sandbox to make the right preparations for war (ie Germany increasing the range and number of their U-Boat fleet, Japan attacking and holding Hawaii, etc).

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Here is a game story that someone is writing...it's pretty interesting stuff

Hearts of Iron Game Story

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Richard playing a game. Interesting and Excellent!

The story thread is interesting, too! Thanks, sachmo!

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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I love the game! And I'm really looking forward to the MOD Bolt is working on.

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I have heard the game is great, and the patch really helped some of the issues that reviewers pasted it on. It is gratifying to see others who like the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Now if only I could find it in a store around here. (I want to play Cuba. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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I see it is done by the creators of Europa Universalis....does it have a specific cut off year like EU did? or can you play it ad infinitum if you want?

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My copy is in route to me now, I am pretty excited about it. I just started playing EU2 recently (from same designer), does anyone else? I am sorely in need of combat/diplomatic advice --if HoI is anywhere as complex as EU2 I may have to quit my RL job just to be competent in both games. Of course, it only took me about a year to figure out SE4 (if you use the word competent REALLY loosely!) There just doesn't seem to be as much time as there used to be on the weekends anymore...

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HoI covers the years 1936-48 if I recall correctly.

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The Wargamer has a micro-site for HOI at:

http://hearts-of-iron.wargamer.com/

PvK

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http://www.avault.com/articles/getar...?name=homeplan

This one is for zeroooo

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A new Patch is out. 1.06

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This game is great (despite, of course, the eternal challenge for a really competitive AI).

It is the most impressive and deep games I've ever seen that incorporates a mind boggling tech tree, socio/political events, foreign policy, leaders, resources, economics, production, tactical military deployment of forces (historic accuracy is exceptional).

This is money well spent, and the mods out there add value as well.

My biggest issue with the game is the inability (or rarity) of the Allies to really generate a D-Day in force event... rather it is normal to have the usual small scale annoyance invasions that aren't much of a threat. Playing as the Axis, the (AI) US must enter the war big-time to keep a good player in check.

My 2 cents...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This should be much improved in 1.06.

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I just downloaded 1.06 and will give the game its duely earned attention now. I am so fricking board of all my other games, yes including SEIV, that anything would be welcome, even MOO3. *shudder* That is how desprite I am.

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HoI, EU2 and SE4 are the only games on my pc anymore. 1.06 for HoI makes signifigant improvements, especially to the AI and naval combat. I have found the user community for the Paradox games is as pleasant and helpful as the one for SE -- shocking but true as far as I can tell. A lot of the HoI players play the CORE mod, but I generally play the "Starfire Historical Mod". If you are just starting to play HoI, I would suggest throwing out the manual and reading the FAQ instead, although I seem to remember a mod group putting together their own manual for "Vanilla" (stock HoI).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's correct, but the Last time I played it, which has been awhile ago, there was at least one mod that changed that. I've been playing SEIVG more, but I'm getting like Atrocities; I'm getting less enthusiastic about playing SEIV and want to try something else. The main reason I play SEIV so much is that it's easier to hit the launcher program on my desktop and pick out a mod to play than it is for me to dig through my desk and find the cd-rom of any other game I wish to play. I already got HOI on my HD, but I'll have to get the latest patch now. Oh, BTW, this is from the same company that makes Galactic Civilization.

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there is a no time limit mod to change the start date and also extend the end date till 2000 something (note--you can alter the start date--example start in 1934, but due to the patch the end date will always remain the same--2199 I believe.) it says for 105b but it works with 1.06 patch. another note--this mod requires you to alter a line in the scenario EUG file which is read only--make sure to change the file(so that its not read-only) before adjusting your start date. This can be done by right clicking the file file icon--and then hitting properties--and simply uncheck the read only attribute. make sure to save as well))). the patch can be found here;

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=roa...roadtowar.com/

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So the game starts in 1936 and ends no matter what the out come in 1948? Man that seems very limiting.

SE IV starts in 2400 and ends in 2436. Would any one want to buy this?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is supposed to be reassuring? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Lots of games have time limits... all the Civ games have them, for example. The fact that it is only 12 years doesn't mean much, as the turns probably cover alot less time than a year. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ May 18, 2004, 23:58: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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the no time limit patch adresses that- you can easily conquer the whole world in the time that the NTL patch allows http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I have this one too and love it. Have not got around to playing a "1.06" game yet. When I first got it, I was looking forward to modding it into a space strategy game. Of course, this idea was quickly dismissed when I learned I could not change the map in anyway. They really should release a map editor prior to releasing HOI2 and make some more money off of HOI.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I shall get this patch.

The learning curve is somewhat mind boggling. I should buy the strategy guide. I have read a lot of the forum on the game and I still have a hard time.

Like if I have a nuke, how do I deploy it?
Simple things like that.

OBTW, I hate great britan, they keep influencing my neighbors. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I shall get this patch.

The learning curve is somewhat mind boggling. I should buy the strategy guide. I have read a lot of the forum on the game and I still have a hard time.

Like if I have a nuke, how do I deploy it?
Simple things like that.

OBTW, I hate great britan, they keep influencing my neighbors. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that's what I hate about some games; the d$!n learning curve. I didn't really feel that this game had a hard learning curve. It does take some getting used to, and I was prepared for it because almost every review I had read about this game stated that this is one very detailed game. I just waited for the price to go down before I bought it. I had actually quit playing there for awhile, until this thread started. now I'm anxious to try this 1.06 patch and see what my Mexican troops can do to the world. I was playing US. but that's so durn easy after awhile it's almost not worth playing. I want to play the Germans, but it's hard to get all of those Blitzkrieg troops in the historical allotted time.

AT, what strategy guide are you talking about? Is there one available?

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There is no published strategy guide. The general forum and the FAQ forum have good amswers.

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Do any of them need a publisher? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks. I didn't think there was a published book. But then again, it's not as if I was scouring the game and book stores looking for one. You're right about the forum and FAQ. They're almost as helpful over on that site as most people are on this site.

[ May 26, 2004, 21:54: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

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I thought I saw a book one day at the computer store. That was a long time ago and my memory is not what it used to be. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Any one have a good link to the No Time Limit mod? The link I have keeps saying Bandwidth Exceeded.

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After seeing this thread i searched the net a bit and i seems to get mixed reviews although most agree that it's a whole new game after patch 1.06.

I wonder how it would compare with world at war from Gary Grigsby.

I like such grand operational war games. I will be buying Trench from adanac command studies too (Frank Hunter) and his next game RFSTAV.
Maybe i should get Hearts of Iron to "kill the time" so to speak

Moderator: I'm very sorry to edit your post but links to other games in competition to shrapnel ones and links/referals to competitors of shrapnel are officially frowned upon.

Minipol: OK and people won't "find" those games by inserting the titles into google?
Removals/editing of Posts to the shrapnel forums are officially frowned upon.
There couldn't help it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
But now i know. Won't do it again.

[ May 27, 2004, 23:22: Message edited by: minipol ]

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Procers site--road to war is having bandwith problems--its ben like that for a while so i dunno how long it wil be. I can email the NTL patch Its a small zip file.

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For anyone who's been playing this game since they installed the 1.06 patch, I have a question. Before I installed the patch, I could use my editor. But now that I've installed the patch, I'm getting error Messages when I try to use the editor. Does anyone know what's going on?

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About the editor--from what i understand, the patch causes the editor to error out--it is a known bug. There are other tools available to edit the game--depending on what you want to do. I recommend going to the actual hearts of iron forums at paradox entertainment for the latest news and info however. This site has some editing tools available in the downloads section.(as well as the no time limit patch to make the game play past 1948) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=roa...roadtowar.com/

link to official HOI forum
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=hea...php?forumid=78

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the info. I tried checking the site out Last night, but didn't see anything about the editor. I"ll try these links, and look again.