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Hunkpapa February 9th, 2003 07:36 PM

Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
I have scanned the forums and still cannot figure out how to mine(extract resources)from asteroids and planets w/o establishing a colony.

Please tell me what needs to be constructed and what needs to be constructed to transport 'it' to the locations.

Thank you.

DavidG February 9th, 2003 07:44 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hunkpapa:
I have scanned the forums and still cannot figure out how to mine(extract resources)from asteroids and planets w/o establishing a colony.

Please tell me what needs to be constructed and what needs to be constructed to transport 'it' to the locations.

Thank you.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You need to build a ship with Robo-Miners on it. Then just leave it around planet.

(and prepare to be disapointed. You may find the ship costs more to maintain than it produces)

[ February 09, 2003, 17:45: Message edited by: DavidG ]

capnq February 9th, 2003 08:35 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
See the Frequently Asked Questions thread {link}, section 4.6 Remote Mining

couslee February 9th, 2003 10:22 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Another consideration when building a remote mining ship is that it uses supplies. Would be a real good idea to wait on building these until you have solar collectors, and a ship large enough to hold a number of extraction components (of the same type)

DavidG February 9th, 2003 10:30 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by couslee:
Another consideration when building a remote mining ship is that it uses supplies.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And if it runs out of supplies?? Who cares, it keeps on mining. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (At least that is what I noticed in a recent P&N game)

Arkcon February 10th, 2003 01:22 AM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hunkpapa:
I have scanned the forums and still cannot figure out how to mine(extract resources)from asteroids and planets w/o establishing a colony.

Please tell me what needs to be constructed and what needs to be constructed to transport 'it' to the locations.

Thank you.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A through treatment of the concept is available here: (click)

Ed Kolis February 10th, 2003 03:29 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Well, it does make the ship consume a lot of maintenance on the way home when the asteroids are depleted...

Greybeard February 10th, 2003 04:09 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
I frequently use remote mining. I make a ship with as few engines as needed to get it in place. It doesn't make any difference if the ship runs out of supplies. It just continues to produce each turn. I don't intend to ever resupply the ship...Greybeard

Aloofi February 10th, 2003 04:23 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
I only use space stations for mining. I love when i get one of those asteroids systems close by. In a few years I get a pretty cool mining community going on there, with space stations loaded only with mining components of the same kind. Some times its so profitable that i can take most facilities slot in my planets for research. Keep it protected though, cause the AI can wreck havoc throught it in no time.

mlmbd February 10th, 2003 04:40 PM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Hunkpapa; Well, for me, I build a SY (Shipyard) Ship. I send it to the location for 'remote' extraction. I then build a Base (the biggest one you have) loaded with remote units, which ever resource you want to extract. Of course this is good. Unitl you get Large satellites. I put the remote units on the satellites. Using the same SY Ship I build satellites. When the resource is gone, or you have finished extracting the resource, I take a Transport (with a couple satellite bays) and recover them and go to another site for extraction. Then launch the satellites.

For me this works!

Aloofim, is right. You do need to protect the site.

<font color=purple>mlmbd http://www.shrapnelgames.com//ubb/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font>

[ February 10, 2003, 14:42: Message edited by: mlmbd ]

couslee February 11th, 2003 01:36 AM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
And what pray tell do you do with the expensive stations once the field is strip-mined? Do you take a spaceyard ship and recycle it? Personally, I tried the base mining once, and found it to be more expense than what it is worth, as compared to a ship that can move around from field to field as needed, and can run out the back door when necessary. I put them on sentry once in place, and as soon as an enemy appears, they haul arse the other way, often to a mine field for protection until an attack fleet can arrive, if necessary.

I still think it's a bug if they continue to mine after the supplies are gone. I doubt that is the intention of the game design, otherwise, why even have it use supplies. imho

(I am just going to have to test that before I can believe it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

[ February 10, 2003, 23:37: Message edited by: couslee ]

Preacherman February 11th, 2003 02:37 AM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
i personally like space station mining.

let's just say that station costs 20k (a big station) another 3k-4k maintenance that makes 24k + 10k for the ship to build and you are at 34k.

place it around an asteroid that does 260% minerals and you earn roughly 26k per turn, break even after 2 turns and then it is +20k surplus each round.

throw in stealth armor or cloaking and you got a space station that is not so obvious to your enemies. but beware of friends that try to mine the same spot as your cloaked station... that can ruin your income...

couslee February 11th, 2003 02:46 AM

Re: Help-newbie-Mining remotely
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by couslee:
Another consideration when building a remote mining ship is that it uses supplies.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And if it runs out of supplies?? Who cares, it keeps on mining. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (At least that is what I noticed in a recent P&N game)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then what is the point in having it use supplies? perhaps it's a bug find. I might do a single remote mining ship test in my current game, once I get far enough in the tech tree to do it. (tis a new game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )


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