Dragon Shipset (looking for AI maker)
 

Some of you may remember I had promised to make this Dragon shipset in... July 2001!!!

I had donated one of the old Version dragons as one of the monsters in Devnull Mod.

It's a shipset where ships are replaced by dragons. Somehow like the old Cephalopeia shipset by my brother Damián where ships are giant squids.

While I finished the pics I'd like someone to revise the old AI made by Deathstalker.
I had added the lines to make it work in Last game Versions but it's terribly outdated and it was never a finished AI anyway.

I had also added a speech file titled "Arrogant or Condescending race speech"
I don't know who the author of that file is.
It would be nice if someone can also spice that file with a phrases that sound more dragon-like.

[ March 03, 2003, 03:25: Message edited by: Andr&eacutes Lescano ]

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Here's a previer:
http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/temp/dra...it_cruiser.jpg

Biological Description
Physically dragons are reptilian creatures that have a thick, long body, scaly skin, four strong legs, two bat-like wings, wedge-shaped heads, and long necks. They are naturally adapted to space flight their skin can resist the hard vacuum of space, although they still need carbon dioxide to breath, they are able to withstand extended periods without breathing. The potent psychic abilities intrinsic to the draconian nature are amply shown in their ability to fly adroitly, although their weight is many hundred stone, their ability to thrust themselves in space using some kind of telekinetic push, and their ability to belch forth mighty streams of consuming flame. Their natural lifespans are measured in millennia, and they never stop growing, so that the wisest and most ancient of dragons are also behemoths of vastness unequaled.

Society Description
Dragons are a wise and ancient race. They are terrible indeed in their anger, no other creature is as terrible in war as the dragon and they will guard their hoards and their eggs with all ferocity, but they are neither cruel nor rapacious in their own nature. Any who says otherwise speaks not the truth. As a matter of fact they consider themselves a honorable and peaceful race by nature, and like to live in close contact with their environment using very little high technology. Dragons pass much of their time alone in their lair, they, during this time, learn about their environment and how to use it wisely. Because they are alone a great deal of time, most of them enjoy company of other dragons and even aliens as long as they hadn't come in the goal of stealing or conquest. They are governed by a seven-member council. But because of their long lifespan, it is uncertain if members of the council are elected democratically or if the position is hereditary; no member of the ruling council has changed at least in the Last 500 years their species has been known.

General History Description
Having the natural ability to fly in space, the Dragons explored their home-system long ago. They had no interest in going further, they knew about other races in the galaxy, but they could not understand the reasons for their self-destructive behavior, and kept well out of the way, in their remote system far from all this confusion. They lived in a peacefull state of isolation for over a thousand generations until they were found by the Terrans. The Terrans attacked without provocation, killing the dragon emissaries that tried to negotiate with them. In a later battle the dragons successfully repulsed the Terran invaders, but that incident opened their eyes. They realized that other races were getting more and more powerful and that they posed a threat for them. Dragons now explore other systems, ready to defend themselves in battle if necessary, decided to never let such massacre happen again.

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Nice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Think I could include this in Adamant Mod when it (and the mod) get completed? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Sure, though my priority will be finishing them for stock SE4.

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Very nice picture. I look forward to the rest of the set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's fine. There are just so few ship sets out there that would work well for Organic or Magical races.

Say, do you think you could maybe make a slightly modified Version that would work well for a Magical race? After you finish the set, of course. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I vaguely remember some incrediable SE game story, about a year ago. It was about misunderstanding between Dragons and humans that resulted in bloody Galactic war. It was very good story. Is your shipset related ?

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I had alredy made a preliminar shipset and abandoned it by the time [this] sorty came out.
It's a coincidence, though it would be nice if Dragon of the void wants to help to spice the descriptions or speech files for this shipset. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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COOL! We now have Dragons to go with the Sharks and the Swarm set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Way cool people. Now all we need is CATS and DOG ship sets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I have sent an email to Deathstalker, but he hasn't been very active lately. Actually he hasn't been very active ever since he got married. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
So I'd better look for another AI expert for help.

Atrocities you're forgetting the good old squids, my brother Damián will be offended.

Cephalopeian Kingdom

[ March 03, 2003, 03:26: Message edited by: Andr&eacutes Lescano ]

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With all due respect, I liked the old racial portrait better then the new Cephalopien one. Is there anywhere I can get it? BTW Kudos to you and your brother, for truely interesting shipsets.

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Very nice looking pic.

Will this be a player race? Curious because it would be a little wierd with a bridge and crew looking out through real dragon eyes, but heh it is a mechanical dragon kinda like Mecha-Godzilla.

Does it have a unique racial profile to choose?

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Very, very nice sample pic. I suppose it has been made with a elaborated toll like povray ?

Same question as below, It will be strange to add engines and auto-destruction device on a dragon !

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"I have sent an email to Deathstalker, but he hasn't been very active lately. Actually he hasn't been very active ever since he got married.
So I'd better look for another AI expert for help."

Lol, too true. j/k. Actually its a combination of things that has slowed me down in my se4 production. Work (about 45hrs/wk), married life, and an annoying little addiction called Magic the Gathering Online. That and I'll be honest, after almost 2 years (or maybe it has been more), I'm burnt out on se4. I havn't made an AI in ages and I've even neglected my Mount Mod (and there are probally some PBW game owners/players who want to string me up for my slow turns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ).

As to the dragons, I've always said this shipset rocked (had a beta on my hard drive for ages), Andres and Damien have done amazing work over the years http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . I originally envisioned the dragons as a combo Organic/Psychic race but whoever wants to make the AI (I'm just not up to speed on all the new 'gold' options for AI making, I'd just muck it up) can do what they feel best.

That and Andres has let me know that people have mentioned that my old AI for the Empire (star wars) is less than challenging. If anyone would like to see what they can do with this one as well you have my blessing as I don't think I have the skills to make it the AI it deserves (or the patience anymore).

I still lurk around (this is still my homepage http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) and will post from time to time but I think my days of se4 will be very sporadic in the future (though I'm looking forward to the next games in the series). There will be a final Mount Mod in the next little while (honest http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ) but its back to lurking for now.....

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A thousand apologies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thank you for reminding me. I have that set, and feel horribly for having not mentioned it.

The Critter Sets are often some of the most interesting to play with. That is next to the Plant sets and the Energy Race Sets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A thousand apologies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thank you for reminding me. I have that set, and feel horribly for having not mentioned it.

The Critter Sets are often some of the most interesting to play with. That is next to the Plant sets and the Energy Race Sets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">... deleted some nonsense...

[ March 03, 2003, 12:26: Message edited by: oleg ]

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By the way Andres, you were thinking some time ago of an update of your shipset list... still in project ?
Such a page would be greatly usefull...

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plonk.

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I guess you want a progress report.
ES-DN, transports, fighters, Race portrait and pop are ready and I'm satisfied with them.
Bases and WPs and troops are half made or I'm not completely satisfied and want to remake/tweak.

No one has volunteered to help with the AI.
Should I post Deathsalker's AI files so anyone can revise them. I don't want to post the pics until I consider them finished and don't want to release a shipset with a poor AI when I finish the pics.

About the races list I'll reply in its own thread.