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mac5732 March 21st, 2003 07:00 AM

New Cantina Poll
 
Ok, since another infamous cantina has gone asounder, here is a poll to see what new facility should replace it. Poll ends 3-27-03

Also if anyone has other names to submit, please post them in this thread for all to review. tks

mac

[ March 21, 2003, 05:24: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Kamog March 21st, 2003 07:05 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
I like Taz-in-Space's idea for the new name:

Ye Newest Galaxy Traveling Bar & Grill & Mobile Cantina! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Katchoo March 21st, 2003 07:17 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
How about "The Surly Captain's Lodge & Tavern"?

Gryphin March 21st, 2003 03:22 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
dogscoff,
Flawless logic. Wish I had said that

DirectorTsaarx March 21st, 2003 05:54 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
In honor of the KOTH tournament and the recent influx of MOO3 refugees, maybe the new name should be:

"The Elvis Pub and Orion Inn"
-or-
"The Master Of Elvis Cantina"
-or-
"Church of the Orion Elvis" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

dogscoff March 21st, 2003 06:30 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Tsaarx - I like your thinking.

How about "The Moo and Poo pub"

tesco samoa March 21st, 2003 07:25 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
moo and poo woo hoo

Ragnarok March 21st, 2003 09:30 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
"Moo is Poo Pub"

David E. Gervais March 22nd, 2003 02:33 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Personally I think we should keep the old thread going... "If it ain't broken don't fix it!"... I kind of like the idea of the Cantina becomming a 'permanent' fixture here at the Forums. I vote we declare the Cantina a 'Historical thread' and try to get it to be a 'Sticky'. Imagine the surprise and pride Gt will get if he and the Cantina are honored this way.

While many people are thinking of change, I'm trying to make the Cantina the very 'foundation' of the SE:4 Forums. (Actually I think it may well already be that!)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin March 22nd, 2003 02:51 AM

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At least one of the Cantina threads is an archive.

I feel the need for a new venue is to provide / inspire a wider range of activeties.

And ofcourse we could rebuild the Cantinna as well

[ March 21, 2003, 12:54: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

dogscoff March 22nd, 2003 02:59 AM

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Quote:

Personally I think we should keep the old thread going... "If it ain't broken don't fix it!"... I kind of like the idea of the Cantina becomming a 'permanent' fixture here at the Forums. I vote we declare the Cantina a 'Historical thread' and try to get it to be a 'Sticky'. Imagine the surprise and pride Gt will get if he and the Cantina are honored this way.

While many people are thinking of change, I'm trying to make the Cantina the very 'foundation' of the SE:4 Forums. (Actually I think it may well already be that!)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tha Cantina is already a permanent part of the forums. We'll just be moving it over to another venue. Why?
(a) because we like to destroy stuff.
(b) because we like to rebuild stuff and haggle nedlessly over how to name it.
(c) it's tradition. I think this will be the fourth cantina now...
(d) It's all cluttered up with stuff and baggage. Time to start afresh, let some of the old hands (like me) take a back seat and allow the new blood to reshape things. Kind of like in Babylon 5 with all "first ones".
(e) because we are obstinate and like to defy reason and logic at every opportunity. So nyer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ March 21, 2003, 13:02: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Taz-in-Space March 22nd, 2003 06:48 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
I voted. How come only one name on list??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
Sounds like some shifty politics to me! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gryphin March 22nd, 2003 03:16 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Well 10 out of 22 want a new name.
Maybe the question is still do we do a shopping emporium or just a cantinna.
I really feel a different venue would generate a greater variety of interaction.

Raging Deadstar March 22nd, 2003 09:13 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Well think about it, we could have the cantina IN a shopping emporium!! Most shopping places have an eatery and pub, well over here in the uk they do! Maybe we're a nation of alchoholics, well i'm not cos i don't drink! *Runs for the door as the cantina members try and subject him to the socalled wonders of alchohol*

David E. Gervais March 22nd, 2003 09:40 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
...A lightbulb turns on in a bubble above my head!...

hmmm,.. "The Nebula Nexus Mall, Cantina and Flea-Market." (Find anything you need, say anything you like and pay the best prices in the galaxy!)

..of course weather the 'best price' is prohibitive or cheap is entirely up to the shopkeepers!

another 2 cents from your truely! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

P.S. Taz, I would like to see a 100 year old oak and mahogany bar with a shiny brass toe-rest in the new cantina. Stools would be nice, but I could live without them. If I find one I'll be sure to let you know! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheers!

Gryphin March 22nd, 2003 10:01 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Raging Deadstar
Yes, and it can be the Yea Olde... cantina.

Fyron March 22nd, 2003 10:09 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
What is with your people's obsession with restarting the Cantina? What is wrong with leaving it as it is?

Raging Deadstar March 22nd, 2003 10:16 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Well the cantina is fun, you should come in some time, or is the great fyron "above" a random act of cartoon violence. I mean it's a piece of shrapnel forum history!!!! It's one of the first threads i look for when i log on

Gryphin March 22nd, 2003 11:13 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Imperator Fyron
What is with your question?
What do you care about how we entertain ourselves?
Why are you courious about this?

Ragnarok March 23rd, 2003 05:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Imperator Fyron
What is with your question?
What do you care about how we entertain ourselves?
Why are you courious about this?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He wants to pick an argument about how it would be better, in his view, that the forum go without the Cantina cause it "sucks bandwidth" for 56K Users having a huge thread in the forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
j/k.

[ March 23, 2003, 03:09: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

mac5732 March 23rd, 2003 05:34 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
The poll closes on the 27th, after which, we shall post any names put foreward for the new cantina. Also if the members decide to have the cantina in a Human and Alien Mall. So after the 27th, hopefully a discussion shall let us go foreard with another poll for a new name and a mall...

So everyone please put on your thinking caps in regards to names.

This is unless number 3 is the winner which makes the other 2 issues mute.

Sure am getting dry without the old place, have to scrounge around for brewskis's and no FBW to serve it..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

just some ideas Mac

mac5732 March 23rd, 2003 05:37 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Rags & Gryphin, I don't think Fyron was saying to do away with the Cantina, I think he means to just leave it as it currently is without starting over again...

just some ideas mac

[ March 23, 2003, 03:38: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Puke March 23rd, 2003 10:21 AM

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i thought this was all decided well before the cantina's 2000th post. it was going to be a boarding party cantina, where we hijacked other threads, and possibly other forums. it was going to go like this:

Quote:

posted December 18, 2002 06:43
...A new Cantina? Hmmm, What name?...

(Taz begins to think hard! Long unused gears begin to turn and things begin to heat up in Taz's head...)

Sparks begin to fly out Taz's ears and his cranium begins to heat up...at first merely a dull red glow around his eyes, soon the glow encompasses his entire head and lights up the nearby area with a fierce yellow-white light.
Just as the closest flammables begin to smoke and smolder, Taz opens his mouth to say:

Ye Newest Galaxy Traveling Bar & Grill & Mobile Cantina!

...With much popping and hissing, Taz's head begins to cool as his brain is again put in Shutdown Mode...
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Quote:

posted January 02, 2003 10:09 by Dogscoff
-Each day, a different boarding party member shall be nominated "hijacker" according to some not-yet-devised system.

-The hijacker will then post to the master bp thread the URL of a random public forum, preferably one with absolutely no connection to se4 whatsoever. That will be the "host forum" for that day. Any forum, whatever its topic (gardening, buddhism, motorbikes, the A-Team, 19th Century bridge-building, anything) is fair game.

-The hijacker must then open a new "Off Topic: Boarding Party" thread in the host forum. Remember this is different from the master bp thread.

-The day's party will be held in the new, non-Shrapnel Boarding Party thread. Anyone wanting to take part in the boarding party must follow the URL in the master bp thread to the hijacked forum and post there, preferably picking up the previous day's conversation without interruption (just to make it all the more confusing for any hijacked-forum regulars who happen to stumble in=-)

-We would have to observe certain rules, so as to minimise the aggravation caused to regulars of host forums:

1- Wherever possible, the hijacker must place the thread in an appropriate area (ie one labelled "off topic" or "general chat") and label the thread as "Off Topic".

2- The Boarding Party thread in a host forum may only be active for one day - 24 hours after the first post to a Boarding Party thread (with the exception of the master bp thread, of course), that thread must be considered out of bounds to all boarding party members. If we can get a friendly host moderator to shut the thread down for us (assuming it survived that long at all) then so much the better.

3- A Boarding Party member may only post to the Boarding Party thread in a host forum. All other threads on that forum are out of bounds unless (a) the member is already a regular in the hijacked forum or (b) the forum regulars specifically invite bp members to post elsewhere.

4- Boarding Party members shall at all times be polite and jovial with host forum regulars, no matter how provoking their flames, threats and taunts. No swearing, unless that is clearly the norm on that forum, and don't be disrespectful to the host forum's topic. We are guests at their party, after all (albeit uninvited ones).

Remember, as long as we are polite and keep to our own off-topic thread we aren't really doing anything wrong by posting to public forums. If ppl start to complain about us being off-topic, we just start token conversations about whatever the forum requires. Topic-drift will soon bring us back round to whatever we were talking about.

I think most host forum regulars will either (a) not realise what's going on in time or (b) have enough of a sense of humour to accept us for just one day. Any regulars who still get upset are to be politely made aware of our code of practise and placated with the fact that it will all be over by tomorrow. Furthermore, any like-minded individuals from invaded forums are welcome to join us in our forum-hopping, gate-crashing adventures. With luck we can snowball this into an infamous, parasitic, uncontrollable web-wide scourge and party our way into internet legend=-)
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Gryphin March 23rd, 2003 09:58 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Oops, David is right.
We did agree the next one would be called The Cantinna. Hmm, wonder who came up with that name.

Hun? oh, it was me? oh. uh oh. Oh well. I like the shopping mall idea but I'm open to The Cantina

We can call it The Cantina and still run the other businesses.

[ March 23, 2003, 19:59: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Fyron March 23rd, 2003 11:10 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
Well the cantina is fun, you should come in some time, or is the great fyron "above" a random act of cartoon violence. I mean it's a piece of shrapnel forum history!!!! It's one of the first threads i look for when i log on
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have been in there. I was one of the first people to post in the second Cantina. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Quote:

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Imperator Fyron
What is with your question?
What do you care about how we entertain ourselves?
Why are you courious about this?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is with your apparent major offense at a simple question? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
He wants to pick an argument about how it would be better, in his view, that the forum go without the Cantina cause it "sucks bandwidth" for 56K Users having a huge thread in the forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
j/k.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No it doesn't. There is no bandwidth usage from just a single link to the Cantina. The size of the thread only matters if someone wants to view the entire thing.

Quote:

Originally posted by mac5732:
Rags & Gryphin, I don't think Fyron was saying to do away with the Cantina, I think he means to just leave it as it currently is without starting over again...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was just asking why it has to be changed again. You can just rename the thread if you want it to have a different name. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin March 23rd, 2003 11:41 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Imperator Fyron
Why do you think I took offence?

That would be very inconsistant with every other post I ever made here.
If you don't think so, please provide examples.

[ March 23, 2003, 21:45: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Ragnarok March 23rd, 2003 11:41 PM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:


</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragnarok:
He wants to pick an argument about how it would be better, in his view, that the forum go without the Cantina cause it "sucks bandwidth" for 56K Users having a huge thread in the forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
j/k.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No it doesn't. There is no bandwidth usage from just a single link to the Cantina. The size of the thread only matters if someone wants to view the entire thing.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, I know that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Quote:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mac5732:
Rags & Gryphin, I don't think Fyron was saying to do away with the Cantina, I think he means to just leave it as it currently is without starting over again...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was just asking why it has to be changed again. You can just rename the thread if you want it to have a different name. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But if we just rename it, it will just be a remodeled Version of the Cantina. It won't be fresh and new. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron March 24th, 2003 12:10 AM

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Quote:

Imperator Fyron
Why do you think I took offence?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The tone of your post implied offense, that is why.

Gryphin March 24th, 2003 12:58 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Imperator Fyron
I was not offended. That would be inconsistent with post such as this:
Just a correction: I did not imply, you infered. Based on the following threads there is no way I would imply somethng.

My New Set Complete (reply # 24)
PBW ethics, opinions please. (reply # 163)
Rating Fyron (reply # 55)

My reason for creating a new thread is because I consider The Cantina threads a form of art. I do not feel able to explain to you why I consider it art.
Many would claim that is not a reason. **shrug**. Their call.

[ March 24, 2003, 02:37: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

David E. Gervais March 24th, 2003 02:23 AM

Re: New Cantina Poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Puke:
i thought this was all decided well before the cantina's 2000th post. it was going to be a boarding party cantina, where we hijacked other threads, and possibly other forums. it was going to go like this:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hmmm, I thought that it was decided to go with calling the new thread simply "The Cantina" Since that is exactly what everyone calls it! No prefix, (ye old, Ye new, floating, galactic, Bar & Grill, etc.)

It's short, it's sweet, and it invokes that warm fuzzy feeling when you say it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

..and I for one would simply rename the thread to illustrate that the Cantina has been rebuilt and is again open for business!

..somebody's getting rich with all my 2 cent contributions! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Cheers!


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