Intel Ideas
 

I was wondering there are a lot of free spaces for buttons on the side of the intelligence screen. And i thought why not have a divide intelligence 75%/25% screen. Theres times where i want to put a major offensive project into action but keep my counter intel funded. I doubt there will be another patch but maybe an idea for SEV

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Are you perhaps assuming the old intel rules are still in place? The ones were you had to put points into a counter intel project every turn in order for it to work? This is no longer the case.

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DavidG, more info on this one please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Prior to gold patch X (I have no idea when it was; the change caught me by surprise), you had to spend points in a turn in at least 1 CI project for any points stored in your CI projects to be used for defense in that turn. But now, your points stored in CI projects will always be used for defense, even if no points are currently being spent on a CI project.

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If I understand it correctly, you must have some points stored in your CI project (amount matters?) and it automatically works no matter whether it gets any points during the turn or not.
CI level 3 has 500k points. Let's say I have 100k stored there. In this case I must be attacked by MORE than 100k of intel in order to get some effects. Right? Number of offencive projects does not matter? Just the amount of points?

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Yes, except that the points stored in a CI project block 1, 2, or 3 times as many points of offensive intel projects (depending on level of CI project). 100k points in CI 3 blocks 300k points of projects. And then, there is a 20% bonus to CI projects, so that 100k points can actually block 360k points of offensive intel projects.

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Ok, so, how I understand intell is like so:

I have lets say 2K intel points in a counter intell 2 project, so therefore I really have 4k points.

Now, my apponent just completed a 5k intel project against me, since I only had 4k in defense it goes through and does damage.

Now, however, lets say may apponent only finishes a 1k intel project, it therefore is defeated by my intel project correct?

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so lets complicate this question a bit further. lets say i have a level 1 ci running then gain level 2 ci. rather than waste those points gained in lvl 1 can i just add a level 2 and have the points cumulative until i complete the level 1 and drop it. i already know you can have multiple ci's running at the same time, but are the points cumulative or does it only use the first one, or the highest level one, etc.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The best thing to do is let the points accumulate into ci2 as each intel point is worth 2.4 ci's in ci2

If you put points into ci1, they will only be worth 1.2 ci1's.

If you leave the ci1 project at the end of the queue (far right), then the ci1's will be used up first and you will be left with ci2's. This of course requires the "divide points equally" to be off.

Having "divide points equally" on should also work if you are under a heavy intel attack, but will longer to use up the points in ci1. But you will not get the full benefit as some of the intel points will go into ci1.

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I think CI points are used in projects on the right end first. Or maybe it was the left side, I forget. Either way, the points are used based off of the order the CI projects are in your queue. I think it is the right end first, working to the left.

ZA, no, you have 4k + 20% = 4.8k effective points for defense, because all CI points count for 20% more than they are, in addition to the level modifiers. This is still not enough to stop a 5k project, but it can make a difference in many other situations.

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sorry i asked 2 questions at once.
1st: in the lvl 1 ci gaining lvl 2 and keeping lvl 1. what i meant was would i gain any benefit from the lvl 1 ci points that i have accumulated. should i continue letting the lvl 1 ci increase until the project is completed then drop it while letting the lvl 2 gain pts also, or should i just drop the lvl 1 project immediately and start from scratch with just the level 2 ci.

2nd: would i gain any benefit from having multiple ci projects of same level going at the same time. would it use the points in one of them and then when they are used up start using the points from the 2nd one or once the points in the first one are used then thats it and i am vulnerable to attacks even though there is a 2nd ci gaining points.

reason for these is i usually have multiple projects going with divide points evenly on but i would really like to have a larger pool of ci points available. say 5 projects going and 2 or 3 of them as ci and rest as intel atks against other empires.

[ April 09, 2003, 00:44: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes. More points = better. Place the CI 1 at the end of the queue so that it is used up first. Delete it once it is empty.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes. All points in CI are used regardless of which projects they happen to be in.

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thanks IF. they shall never defeat me now.

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Oh yeah... don't spend more points in the CI 1, just keep the points already in it around for defense. Make sure all new CI spending is in CI 2.

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not a problem just will unclick the repeat projects until it is finished. unless i have another project that will finish first of course.

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Fyron: Didn't kow about the 20% thing, but that was not my point. I basicly wanted to know whether my understanding of how intell worked was right, which it is, so I don't have to worry about it.

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Intel Ideas. Well I think that if Intel would go back to basics and review the fundamental qualities that made Intel a leader in the Semi Conductior market, overhaul Mores Law, and stop releasing faster chips every GD six months, then perhaps the rest of us could catch the hell up and use some of these new chips. ---- OH you mean INTEL as in INTEL for INTEL in SEIV. My bad.

Ya um, just add a lot of projects where I can blow **** up. That will work for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

(My useless contribution to this topic.)

Is there a way to mod in a counter intel facility that generates Counter intel?

New projects:
I made a few for the Star Trek Mod, but the one I really like is the ability to cause plagues on enemy worlds. That is a very nasty intel project.

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Unless you are organic and have your medical labs built http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif