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Master Belisarius June 7th, 2003 03:33 PM

Someone use Way Points?
 
I always use this feature in big maps... and really consider it a "must be" feature to avoid micromanagement in big games.

[ June 08, 2003, 02:34: Message edited by: Master Belisarius ]

DavidG June 7th, 2003 05:51 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I usually set 3 or 4 way points on my main military type planets that are at the front so that when a new ship gets built at the rear I can just order in to waypoint 1. Saves a bit of clicking. Depending on the situation I may set the planet move to order to go to the way point.

Slynky June 7th, 2003 05:54 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Probably bad play on my part but I tried using them and determined (after so many deviations from those "assigned" waypoints) that it didn't help much to use them.

Many factors are involved for me when moving ships...what I guess some might call, "Management by Crisis"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Taera June 7th, 2003 06:43 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
an extremly useful option, waypoints are. its a shame to NOT be using them.

Raging Deadstar June 7th, 2003 06:49 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I use them when i have a specific spaceyard creating ships for a specific warp point, but other than that i don't really use them that much

Pax June 7th, 2003 07:37 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I can't answer, because my answer woudl be "sometimes, when it is strategically advantageous".

Map size has nothing to do with it; number of shipyards building a given ship, does. Wether or not it's a peacetime build, and I have somewhere with multiple trainng facilities in the same sector, does (planet with 2 moons = triple train rates, in vanilla SE4).

Lisif Deoral June 7th, 2003 09:04 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
micromanagement good, waypoints bad

now all I need is a bunch of sheep repeating it for hours... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron June 7th, 2003 10:10 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Why are waypoints bad? You can gather your new ships at the nearest training planet with just 2 button presses instead of several mouse clicks, then some buttons, and more clicks.

JLS June 7th, 2003 10:25 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I also use them, MB http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Great for refueling stops along the way thru many systems to the frontier, System Fleet Headquarters’ that has large ship facilities that include training, repair etc. Frontier WP defense rendezvous…

This is defiantly a great tool to have in the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 07, 2003, 21:26: Message edited by: JLS ]

narf poit chez BOOM June 7th, 2003 10:29 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
i only use them sometimes, if it looks like it might be worth it.

Master Belisarius June 7th, 2003 10:45 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JLS:
I also use them, MB http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Great for refueling stops along the way thru many systems to the frontier, System Fleet Headquarters’ that has large ship facilities that include training, repair etc. Frontier WP defense rendezvous…

This is defiantly a great tool to have in the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exactly.
This is the main use for me... and then, I don't need to control every message like "the ship Xxxx has been built at Rove".

Fyron June 8th, 2003 12:48 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
So why did you make this poll exactly?

Phoenix-D June 8th, 2003 02:00 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
So why didn't you say that to Narf's poll?

Fyron June 8th, 2003 02:17 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
What does that have to do with anything? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Phoenix-D June 8th, 2003 02:18 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
You're asking what the point is on a poll with a point, but not on one without one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Chronon June 8th, 2003 03:34 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Like JLS, I find them extremely useful for fleet assembly points. I usually have all my space yards set up to automatically send newly built ships to one of my waypoint planets, which usually has a resupply depot, a ship training facility, and a fleet training facility. It really saves a lot of time.

[ June 08, 2003, 02:35: Message edited by: Chronon ]

Master Belisarius June 8th, 2003 03:34 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
So why did you make this poll exactly?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just wanted to know if other guys use Way Points or not.

Ed Kolis June 8th, 2003 03:59 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I usually have 2 waypoints, something along the lines of "Homeworld" and "Forward Military Base"... you can see I don't like to fight multi-front wars http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Krsqk June 8th, 2003 04:53 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
I usually have 2 waypoints, something along the lines of "Homeworld" and "Forward Military Base"... you can see I don't like to fight multi-front wars http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*whips out PBW notebook, jots an entry under ekolis*

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fyron June 8th, 2003 06:02 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
I usually have 2 waypoints, something along the lines of "Homeworld" and "Forward Military Base"... you can see I don't like to fight multi-front wars http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But those are the most fun! Especially when you create new fronts in several point in enemy space at once with WP openers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Atrocities June 8th, 2003 08:10 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
I love way points. They are very useful.

JLS June 9th, 2003 04:12 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
MB, there is one thing, that has just happened to a ship on Auto Pilot to the next Way Point. It was canceled by AI intel and ended up Systems away before I noticed it… http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

But I still will always, use it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 09, 2003, 15:30: Message edited by: JLS ]

Ragnarok June 9th, 2003 06:30 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Not a game goes by where I don't have a few waypoints throughout my empire. I don't know if I can play this game without using them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Lisif Deoral June 9th, 2003 09:28 PM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Why are waypoints bad?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">'cause micromanagement is good! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Well, I apparently do happen to enjoy micromanagement - at least, the sort of micromanagement present in SEIV.

Master Belisarius June 10th, 2003 12:56 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JLS:
MB, there is one thing, that has just happened to a ship on Auto Pilot to the next Way Point. It was canceled by AI intel and ended up Systems away before I noticed it… http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

But I still will always, use it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehehehehe, "**** happens".

Fyron June 10th, 2003 10:17 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lisif Deoral:
'cause micromanagement is good! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Well, I apparently do happen to enjoy micromanagement - at least, the sort of micromanagement present in SEIV.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Guess you'll enjoy that Proportions empire you took over then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 10, 2003, 09:17: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

tesco samoa June 11th, 2003 01:06 AM

Re: Someone use Way Points?
 
hmm my post went missing from 2 days ago

I enjoy way points as well.

I max out the 10 quite early in a game.

I use them for dropping off units,
Loading population
Fleet concentrations
Picking up units

Etc...


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