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Puke June 10th, 2003 11:47 PM

OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
okay, i've been offline for a while - but thought i would jump back on to try and steal Starfury's thunder. Dont get me wrong, SF looks like a great game, and its going to get my money. If for no other reason than to support the development of SE5, and to get a sneak peak at the combat engine.

but as many of you old space game grognards will remember, Elite was the mother of all space exploration / trader games, giving birth to games like TW:2002, privateer, and freelancer. Egosoft's X, and the long heralded sequel X2 are the firt games that come close to reviving Elite's vision.

Players can buy / modify / outift ships and fighters, sure. but prices of goods are based on real world supply and demand. distance of resources to the factory, and demand in a given area for finished goods. increase weapons value by starting a war. decrease supply by blowing up a factory. start a war by forcing an empire to move their trade route through hostile teritory for some valueable resource that you control. control resources by building a merchantile empire of trade ships, starbases, resource extractors, factories, and the like.

This, in short, is the game of games for fans of space-flight / free-trader simulations. bar none. no exceptions. this is it.

and now it has a release date, September of 2003. check out more info, and pre-order at www.egosoft.com

so.. how's everything else been on the forum? any new mods? what kind of mods can we expect for starfury?

Ragnarok June 11th, 2003 12:09 AM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
This game looks pretty good. I'll probably buy it after I read some reviews and so forth.

My first priority still remains with Starfury though. Well, that's my second priority I guess; first would be getting a computer that will perform better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM June 11th, 2003 01:47 AM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
naaarf.
transalation: this game is an impressive example of it's genre, and i look forword to many fascinating hours of play.
this is a good space sim that needs advertising, i think.
http://www.starwraith.com/

[ June 11, 2003, 02:45: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Unknown_Enemy June 11th, 2003 07:29 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Looks cool.
It could be way better than the much over-hyped freelancer. Well, freelancer was not so bad, but I really need the feel of a joystick in these sort of games. Then most of enemy ships used to come straight at me instead of splitting targets with my buddies. And random missions were ALWAYS "go there and shoot <random name>". Boring.

Overall a disapointment. I regret the money I put in it. If I put 1 €cent in X2 and get disapointed, I will go directly for Puke's head in every single PBW I can find him.

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Ruatha June 11th, 2003 08:32 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Ahh, Elite. My once favourite game. I still think thay had the best 3D radar map made.
And in the sequels, the stellar map was brilliant aswell.

Looking forward to this on.

Atrocities June 11th, 2003 08:37 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Hey Puke its good to see you posting something. God where have you been man? Off playing Elite no doubt.

dogscoff June 12th, 2003 08:59 AM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Would you like to play the original elite again? Some very kind and dedicated person has ported it to java and dropped it onto their website for your enjoyment:

http://bootlace.co.uk/index.php?pid=jelite&sid=applet

Ruatha June 12th, 2003 12:23 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
It's good but I can't decrease the speed, I don't use an american keyboard.

Edit 1:
Hey, what if I press Ctrl ALT f1....
Will have to try.

Edit 2:
It's windows, not as good as DOS used to be.
Will have to add it first in the control panel....

Work...You don't have permission to do this!, will have to wait until I get home.

[ June 12, 2003, 11:31: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Rigelian June 12th, 2003 02:37 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Quote:

How do you enter the !#$%¨&* rotating space station ? I always crash into that !!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He he. haven't tried it on the java-ported Version, but on my trusty old C64 many years ago...

The trick was to get onto the imaginary axis of rotation of the SS. So move towards that, and rotate your ship to look straight at the 'slot'. When all the sides of the SS were symmetrical (they were docedahedrons or suchlike?), you could move straight towards it. You might have to rotate your ship so that the 'slot' was horizontal, can't remember.

Anyway, I do remember taking HOURS doing this before buying that docking computer.

All you elite-fans might want to take a look at www.eve-Online.com. However this thing is a $12pcm subscription...

Ruatha June 12th, 2003 04:03 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
How do you enter the !#$%¨&* rotating space station ? I always crash into that !!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rigelian is right.
What is needed is training and training.
There are two different ways.
The best and safest is to rotate in phase with the space station.
The funniest and mostly deadly is to put on enough throttle and adjust the speed so that you enter when you are in the right position, tricky but doable!
You must enter without hitting the walls, i e when you are facing the rectangle as common hangar doors.

I used to play it on the BBC micro and the Amstrad CPC-464.

[ June 12, 2003, 15:04: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Dralasite June 12th, 2003 04:19 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Quote:

Anyway, I do remember taking HOURS doing this before buying that docking computer.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, that was the hardest part of the game! The java Version seems a little more tolerant with docking, or I just got really lucky. Thanks for the links!

Erax June 12th, 2003 06:29 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
BREAKING NEWS !!!!

Starfury is up for pre-order !!!!

Check the Shrapnel Games news area.

Ragnarok June 12th, 2003 06:44 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
Sweet! I think that deserves its own thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I think that deserves me getting a new computer quick that had a decent 3D card. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And it's only $29.95USD with the preorder special. Not a bad price at all. I'll probably order it sometime from now and next week.

[ June 12, 2003, 17:47: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Erax June 12th, 2003 07:18 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
The preorder offer is good only until Sunday the 15th. Now I need a 3D card too. I'll see if I can find a nice, cheap, used card with my friendly neighborhood computer parts salesman.

Erax June 13th, 2003 01:46 AM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
How do you enter the !#$%¨&* rotating space station ? I always crash into that !!

tesco samoa June 13th, 2003 04:16 PM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
homeworld two is coming as well...

Check the review on gamespot

narf poit chez BOOM June 14th, 2003 12:34 AM

Re: OT: modern day Elite? X2:Threat on the way
 
i know. i want to buy hw2 and then get a mod for it that puts in sw and st and then fight as one and then the other.


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