New PBW game for newbies
 

This game is intended primarily for newbies. Experienced players may join, but I will limit the number of them to half (or less), and they may find themselves bumped in favor of newbies. Also, if you're an experienced player and do join the game, try to keep in mind the company you're in and be patient with us (and maybe save those ultra-hyper-super secrets for when you REALLY need them!)

Starting resources: 5000
Starting planets: 1
Home planet value: Good
Score display: all
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 3000
Quadrant type: Mid-Life
Quadrant size: Large (255)
Event frequency: Low
Event severity: High
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last man standing?
Maximum units: MAX
Maximum ships: MAX
Computer players: Low?
Computer difficulty: High
Computer player bonus: None
Neutral empires: Yes
Other game settings: Players can see complete tech tree

Stock 1.84

[ June 17, 2003, 05:23: Message edited by: Ares ]

Re: New PBW game for newbies
 

Heh ya, What is your definition of Newbie?
I have only started PBW in the Last 2 months but I am currently playing 5 games. The most advanced is up to turn 90 odd.
Am I still fresh faced http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
J.

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hey is that the game titled space empires 101
If it is woot I am arlready in...if not um give me the name I will join that one too!

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wouldnt mind, my pbw experience is very limited. im not doing too bad in my few games but my scores are way down so i presume i can be considered an average player.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not the game owner but the description is the same, sooooo, I would assume so. (Mostly this is to let people know the name of the game (and not to poke fun.))

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*smacks foreheaad* Can't believe I didn't even put the name in, but yeah, it's Space Empires 101. As far as how new is newbie, this is the first game for two of us, third for 1, and a fourth I don't know about yet. But, as I said, I'm also taking a few experienced players, though I'm fairly open on what a "newbie" player is. I have it set for 20 players. As a side-note, anyone know if that's the max? I've seen games set for more (32 specifically), but all of the menus and stuff only have pages for up to 20. Anyone know what's going on there?

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I'm not exactly a newbie (I've made two PBW games, still not finished), but I've got my *** severly kicked in one of them, so I think I still have many things to learn in terms of strategy...
So I'm applying.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">20 is the max. I don't know how the game could've been set to 32 because it just isn't possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Re: New PBW game for newbies
 

Ares... You might want to try a smaller map.

That way our new players can learn to deal with the early to mid tech level games that occur all the time.

As the other game is based on a large map.

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[quote] - posted June 18, 2003 05:03
quote:Originally posted by Rojero:
hey is that the game titled space empires 101
If it is woot I am arlready in...if not um give me the name I will join that one too!I'm not the game owner but the description is the same, sooooo, I would assume so. (Mostly this is to let people know the name of the game (and not to poke fun.)) <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sorry was not poking fun was actually hoping there was another newbie game to wet my feet in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">20 is the max. I don't know how the game could've been set to 32 because it just isn't possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The game itself wasn't set for 32. It was the setting on a PBW game I saw (one that hadn't started yet). Maybe he just set it like that so he'd have a few extra spaces for people to apply. Dunno

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ohh ok, I see. I didn't know you could set it that high on PBW; I figured they had programmed it in to not accept anything over 20. But anyway, I guess they didn't and so you can set that part as high as you want. But when you go to set the game up you can only add 20 of those empires.

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oups, missed my empire upload : didn't manage to link to the correct shipset file. (that's the kind of pb that can occur while playing with newbies... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

So here is the link :

http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/...hip+2+beta.zip

If I had a suggestion : avoid "Last man standing" victory condition : it's not realistic :why allies from the first hour should fight against each over to win in the end ?

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Okay, Tesco I added that suggestion to the PBW forum for everyone to discuss (along with a couple others.) Also, trooper, you might want to post that link there, too.

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Last call for players. We may only wait for a couple more before we begin and, since almost everyone in the game is a newbie of one degree or another, the Last few slots are open to anyone wanting a good game!

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KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!

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I'll join. I'm not a complete newbie but in no way am I Fyron, or Geo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I'll still take it easy on ya'll. But I better ask that you all take it easy on me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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if you need a map made let me know... I will make one.

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I am headed on an extended vacation starting this Tuesday, July 1st and Lasting two weeks.

Since I don't want to either slow down the game as it starts or miss a lot of initial turns. It might be best if I just withdraw from this game right now before it really starts. That way a volunteer can play from beginning to end. It is a shame, because I think this game is going to be a lot of fun.

I am posting this in hopes that someone will volunteer as a quick replacement. This game is just about to start (again)! Anyone interested?

[ June 29, 2003, 07:09: Message edited by: cybersol ]

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Cybersol, you dont want to just find someone to cover for you? 2 weeks should only be a few turns given so many players. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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That's a good idea I hadn't thought of, Joachim. And actually, I was thinking about it, and I don't think he'd miss much even if he'd let the AI run it for a while. It'll still explore and colonize for him for a while, maybe not as efficiently, but he'll have plenty of time to catch up. It's going to be a long game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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AI really sucks. And initial exploration / buildup is very important, as the success there lays the base for the size of your empire later. Every producing shipyard is the key for an average of 2 more colonies per turn, which in turn can build up and form the base for another 2 colonies per turn, thus multiplying the early success. One producing shipyard less in turn 10 may mean about 20 colonies less in turn 30, and 50 colonies less in turn 40.

I think it's less disadvantegous to let the AI take over some turns in the 40-60 range than right at the start, even if the AI seems to do more later by handling more ships and planets. But the effect is not so severe at that time because its less critical, due to already formed borders, pre-planned production queues, and limits of expansion.

Cybersol, if you want to play that game, look for a standby who can do the first turns. I would do if you want. Just make sure you take over after your vaccation. I don't want to play the whole game since I think tech trading and intel allowed with no limitations to alliances will put too much emphasis on diplomacy, which I do neither like nor have time for. If you can form a reliable from-the-first-hour-alliance it will win the game, no matter how good you are doing strategically as a lone wolf. Especially with alliance wins enabled.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't think anyone would want to play for the first 10 turns of a game and not finish, but Roanon seems to have volunteered to do just that.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Roanon, you seem to have a similar philosophy about the importance of initial game expansion and the value of compounding. I would be thankful if you would be willing to start things out. We should get in touch by email, so I am going to send you a PM with my email address.

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I know something the PBW site doesn't know. I decoded the game master's password. Only took 24 hours of hard work. I would tell you, but then I would have to kill you. Oh yeah, I might do that later anyway. (Ok so I should put down the nonsense threads and back away from the computer)

On a more serious note. How is the restart going?

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I'm back from my WE...
What's up ? people arguing about game parameters ? no new turn since Wednesday ?

Re: New PBW game for newbies
 

Seems that we've started from scratch with an entirely new map... But the scores are still visible for everyone, was it the settings you wanted, Ares ?

Re: New PBW game for newbies
 

A couple of players are gone, so we have a couple of slots open again! We're still in the first few turns, so you won't miss much!

Edit: Yes, Trooper, it was.

[ July 03, 2003, 20:27: Message edited by: Ares ]