The Best ever ST episode.
 

Yes, it is subjective, but I just watched once again the rerun of ST:TNG episode about Tammarians - aliens who speak in metaphors and I realised it has everything - suspence, misunderstanding, truly alien cultures, VERY good acting.

I think it was the perfect ST !!

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yesterdays enterprise was my fav from stng

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TOS: Balance of Terror
STNG: Yestardays Enterprise
DS9: To many to list
Voy: Forgot the episode name
Entr: None yet.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Except for one thing. Paul Winfield shouldn't have been speaking his metaphors in English (or basic or common). The language should have been different. This has been my pet peeve about Star Trek for the longest time. How come everyone seems to speak English, even in a first contact situation? At least they're trying to show how it should be in Enterprise.

As far as my Favorites, here's a list (can't remember all of the titles):

ST: Balance of Terror
Space Seed
Court Martial

ST:TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise
almost all of the Klingon episodes

There are a few more, but I"m pressed for time and I just can't remember the titles right now.

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The metaphors were the one thing that couldn't be translated automatically. The individual words could be, but not the sentences, since they involved specific events in their history and emotions/actions/etc associated with them.

"O Avenger em X100, com agitação do punho. O Matador em Curyok IV, ela luzes escurece"

You try translating that into its intended meaning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ( http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr )
Take your best shot, and I'll tell you what it means later.

[ June 17, 2003, 22:41: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ahh yes, the Universal Translator. Lord knows how it works, but it does it's job brilliantly.

Just like the Inertial Compensators that all Federation Ships have. Afterall, without ICs, as soon as a Ship went to warp all the people in the ship would turn into tomato paste.

Star Trek is great at creating technology that solves all the problems you could face, and do it without much explanation.

Getting back on topic though, my favorite episodes are:

ST:TOS - Mirror Mirror

ST:TNG - Relics (with Scotty & the Dyson's Sphere)

ST:DS9 - Trials & Tibbleations

ST:Voyager - The 2 part episode with the USS Equinox.

ST:Enterprise - The Last episode of the 2nd season where Florida gets scorched and the Enterprise goes on a mission of revenge.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Technically, warp drive is a non-inertial form of propulsion (which is how it bypasses c), but the shows & some of the books aren't always true to the published ST physics. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The books usually do a better job of explaining things.

P.S.: The Trouble with Tribbles

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Oh yeah, Oleg. I remember that episode and when ever I get a chance to watch Next Generation, I always hope that's the one. I hope your rerun was a local and not something I could have caught on cable, I'll be KICKING myself. That is an awesome episode. I remember getting choked up when I first saw. <sniff>

Mathias Ice

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My favorite Trek episode is any of the DS9 episodes with the alternate universe. The only Trek babe hotter then Major Kira was Evil Kira. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Yes attendant, what ever you say attendant.

Geoschmo

[ June 18, 2003, 01:46: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It doesn't make any sense in Portuguese, I can tell you that !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I'm not really a big fan of Star Trek in the sense of episodes and characters, but more so the Star Trek universe in general - the ships, the races, the exploration of space.

I enjoyed most of TNG from the third season onward, as well as most of DS9. I never really got into Voyager that much, but I think I've seen most of the episodes by now. I watch Enterprise and some of the episodes are well done, but I'm really tired of the whole time-travel thing. I wish they'd stick to stories like the Vulcan-Andorian conflict, Romulans, exploration, things like that - those stories seem to fit better with the way I think of Pre-Federation times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Translation #1:
The Avenger in X100, with agitation of the fist. The Killer in Curyok IV, it light becomes gloomy

Translation #2:
The Avenger in X100, with agitation of the fist. The Matador in Curyok IV, she lights darkens

Translation #3:
THE ONE Avail oneself of something well into X100, along ado from the fist. The killer well into Curyok IV , she lights blackens

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I prefer the agitation of the fist part to whatever it actually means. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Where did you get the other two translations?

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Do keep in mind that the message was originally in english, then babelfished into the form I posted.

You'll have to "round off" those results into common english expressions.

[ June 18, 2003, 05:34: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

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I got the other two tranlations from:
http://www.freetranslation.com/
http://www.systransoft.com/
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran

But one of these was exactly the same as the one from Babelfish, so I ended up with three Versions of the translation.

OK, "rounding off" the translation into common English expressions...
Hmm, this is hard. I'm guessing that "Avenger" and "Matador" are names of ships so they will stay the same, and also "Curyok IV" is the name of a planet. I don't know what "X100" is, but it doesn't seem to translate, so I'll just leave it the way it is, maybe it's also the name of a system or something.

The Avenger in X100 shakes his fist. The Matador in Curyok IV turns off her lights.

...Nah, still doesn't make sense. Besides, if I translate this from English to Portuguese, I don't end up with the original sentences, so it's obviously wrong.

Um,
...The Matador in Curyok IV turns invisible? Turns on her cloaking device?

Oh, I give up... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'm thinking that "agitation of fist" could be "itchy trigger finger"

Edit: Oh, and the best episodes always have Tribbles in them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 18, 2003, 10:28: Message edited by: jimbob ]

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TNG – Don’t’ know the name and really it is more of a favorite scene than episode.
The Enterprise crew is duped into helping a Roumulan spy escape. The Last scene they are staring down the bore of 3 Romulan War brids.
Picard is fuming
Number 1 turns to Picard and says
“Some days the bear gets you”

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not too sure about this.

My gf recently hit a deer hard enough to reduce it to its constituent humours. The majority of what we found after ward was white goo (along with the regular grizzly assortment of semi-identifiable large-than-particle stuff). I'm not sure why but evidence seems to indicate that mammals have a cream filling. Perhaps this individual was simply more Phlegmatic than Sanguine.

Lords know how she got the car going that fast on a windy mountain highway, but I've got a great answer when she asks to use my car.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes this was nice.

I liked the Klingon Civil War, the yesterdays enterprise (at least I think this was the one) at TNG, in DS9 I like the War against the dominion.
And I like nearly everyone of the new Millenium Gate??.?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The ship wants to go, but your organs and bones want to stay. They would most likely be crushed by the enormous pressure, leaving a human bag of goo or skin on the one side and everything else on the other side.

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"Best of Both Worlds" was my favorite TNG episode. I particularly liked the ending of the 1st part, when the crew sees their former captain assimilated. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Following Gryphin's lead, a favorite scene from STNG - the episode was "The Ensigns of Command", when the Enterprise had to rescue a lost colony from the hyperlegalistic Sheliak. After getting beat over the head with their treaty with the Sheliak, Picard finally finds a loophole in it and turns the tables on them (requesting arbitration by a race that's currently in hibernation IIRC). When the Sheliak begin to nervously call for a renegotiation, Picard cuts off the channel.

RIKER (with surpise and admiration) - You enjoyed that.

PICARD - You're damn right.

Picard then casually wandered the bridge wiping dust off the fixtures while the Sheliak desperately tried to re-open the channel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes that was nice too

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My favorite: "City on the Edge of Forever." It would have been deeper with Ellison's original screenplay, but it's excellent as is.

Honorable mention to "Mirror, Mirror", "Balance of Terror", and "Yesterday's Enterprise"

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Best ever ST episode... probably that one where the Enterprise saves the world... again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

That and the Tribbles episode... those fuzzy little things that gave the Klingons the heeby jeebies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Translation #1:
The Avenger in X100, with agitation of the fist. The Killer in Curyok IV, it light becomes gloomy

Translation #2:
The Avenger in X100, with agitation of the fist. The Matador in Curyok IV, she lights darkens

Translation #3:
THE ONE Avail oneself of something well into X100, along ado from the fist. The killer well into Curyok IV , she lights blackens</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, first, through out the 3rd translation, It makes no sense, like a sentence strung together with random words and no grammar, plus it doesn't mesh with the other two, Now, for the first part, I think it's obvious that the Avenger is a ship or unit in the X100 system. My best guess is that it's a warning to remove presence from the system. Agitating the fist, as if yelling angrily. The killer/matador is a even trickier. My first guess would be that the Curyok is a black hole system (it darkens light), except that it's a planet ("IV"). I agree that it could be a cloacked ship, though I have an unexplicable gut instinct it's a little more complicated than that. Perhaps a threat to destroy the star? Again, it seems a little too literal... Maybe if you take the tone of the sentence rather than the exact words, like an attack.

My sketchy first draft would be something like:
"Remove your ship from X100, we are in a position to (capture/destroy) your planet Curyok IV.

Am I even close?

Edit: Oh, and even as I'm reading/posting in this thread, ST:Voyager is on. The episode where Tom finds the "Diamond in the rough" ship with the neurogenic interface. (Didn't catch the subtitle.)

[ June 24, 2003, 07:05: Message edited by: Ares ]

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it's a ship attacking another and one is destroyed/is being destroyed

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Google told me this.

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As a note:
The Avenger and the Matador were both large warships in the "End of the Line" story, which was VS AI players.