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Suicide Junkie June 25th, 2003 03:05 AM

Yet another victim.
 
I've just joined Captain Kwok and the others with computer problems.

As of today, I can't boot...
Not sure if its viral or physical problems.

In any case, I'll be down and out for the next while, only able to post from work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

dumbluck June 25th, 2003 03:31 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Didn't you just replace your computer, component by component, not too long ago?

I feel your pain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

TerranC June 25th, 2003 03:57 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Oh well. SJ's computer doesn't have anything important in it. No loss.

Wait...

Oh god! SJ's Starfury Beta!

*TC Boards the nearest greyhound bus en route to Ontario*

Suicide Junkie June 25th, 2003 04:40 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Yeah... about 6 months ago.

The only original components are a stick of RAM, the CPU heatsink and the big metal outer case.

Anyways, it looks like my primary (OS & some old stuff) drive is toast. I'm not sure exactly what I still had on there, or whether there is a chance of recovering it.
I'll know more tomorrow when I get a chance to open it up and poke around.

Captain Kwok June 25th, 2003 04:43 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
You sure do go through a lot of harddrives.

dumbluck June 25th, 2003 05:08 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Hmm. I wonder if the SE4 committee game file index was on that computer, cause I can't get it to come up now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Loser June 25th, 2003 05:46 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
What is it with computer, and especially hard disk drive, failures around here?

Do you guys smoke around your machine?

Do you pack it in a little cubby hole?

Do you haul it to and from LAN parties on a weekly basis?

Do you have a low-end electrical provider that constantly browns your power?

Do you habitually sneer at the mysterious woman on the street corner on the way to work?

TerranC June 25th, 2003 06:00 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loser:
What is it with computer, and especially hard disk drive, failures around here?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. We install Se4 on it.
2. We install Se4 Periphernalia on it.
3. We install anything else that has to do with Se4 on it.
4. We use Se4 every space moment we have.
5. We save, and open, and save, open, and save .txt files that make up Se4 data.
6. Almost all of us have had our HDs for a long time.
7. It's just bad luck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Loser June 25th, 2003 06:15 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TerranC:
It's just bad luck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I guess so. We only hear about the disasters, of course.

I've already had my bad ones, so I back up all manner of things to CD.

Walked into the room one day and thought: Oh I hope that terrible grinding sound is a fan that went out.

No one learns to back up without the pain of loss and gut wrenching might-haves. Well, almost no one. Can't compete with a real paranoid.

Fyron June 25th, 2003 10:59 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
This is part of the reason why I release every minor change to Adamant Mod. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities June 25th, 2003 11:55 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Now I don't feel so bad.

Suicide Junkie June 25th, 2003 03:14 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dumbluck:
Hmm. I wonder if the SE4 committee game file index was on that computer, cause I can't get it to come up now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Imagemodserver is gone, but executron and C&R have mirrors.

I do have the committee game installed on a CD-RW, so it still exists.

Jack Simth June 25th, 2003 05:19 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Perrin:
This should not matter as all computers run on smoke.

In fact if you ever see the smoke escape from your computer you know it is broken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, the rest of the computer is mirrors, but they are pretty solid. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

tesco samoa June 25th, 2003 07:04 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
guys try this

http://biatchux.dmzs.com/?section=main

FIRE is a portable bootable cdrom based distribution with the goal of providing an immediate environment to perform forensic analysis, incident response, data recovery, virus scanning and vulnerability assessment.
Also provides necessary tools for live forensics/analysis on win32, sparc solaris and x86 linux hosts just by mounting the cdrom and using trusted static binaries available in /statbins.

Alpha Kodiak June 25th, 2003 09:30 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
While it may not be the problem in this case, old RAM can cause some pretty strange problems, including sporadic (or even not-so-sporadic) failures to boot.

I just recently got an older system up and running that had given me grief for a long time. I replaced every piece of it, including the case and power supply, but didn't think to change the RAM. I had all kinds of odd problems, including frequent failures to boot. Then, I got smart and changed the RAM out, and it works like a champ.

JLS June 25th, 2003 11:45 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Please, no body takes this the wrong way.

All, of whom that has lost a Hard Drive, should compare notes, on any files that are in common, that have received, downloaded, opened, or shared.

Thermodyne June 25th, 2003 11:56 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
The point of all of this should be the importance of backing up to removable media. As the price of IDE hard drives has fallen, so has the reliability. What used to be a rarity is now quite common. If you have a system that is used every day, you have a 1 in 12 chance of writing off a boot drive over a five year period. If you spend time writing code, or even DL’ing files, you should back up your data.

Perrin June 26th, 2003 01:34 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Loser:
Do you guys smoke around your machine?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This should not matter as all computers run on smoke.

In fact if you ever see the smoke escape from your computer you know it is broken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Gryphin June 26th, 2003 02:20 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Thermodyne,
What you say about the qualty / price reminds me of the 170MB Quantum I have. Can't remember the price but I was using Windows 386. It still runs on the same system though I only fire her up for show now.
It is on this system:
http://www.windingstream.com/Photos/...dification.htm

Suicide Junkie June 26th, 2003 02:03 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Well, my computer is in an air conditioned room, with plenty of ventilation.

Time for a discussion on What are the best/worst drives to buy...

The one I just lost (after 6 months) is a Maxtor, the sixth drive I've had in this case.

geoschmo June 26th, 2003 02:08 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
SJ, you mentioned you have not had to replace the case. You did replace the power supply right? Power supplies are notorious for acting like they are working fine (right voltages etc) all the while cooking off motherBoards and disk drives one after the other.

Geoschmo

Suicide Junkie June 26th, 2003 02:14 PM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Yep...
After burning the replacement drive I bought, I had looked into it and found the original PS had started putting 13v on the 12v line.

I bought a fancy enermax power supply right after that, and got two new harddrives, all six months ago.

Erax June 27th, 2003 01:30 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Are you having an especially hot summer up there above the Equator ? I know most of my component failures happened during warm weather.

Loser June 27th, 2003 01:56 AM

Re: Yet another victim.
 
Haha!


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