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I have been using Netscape now for about a month and I have to say that I really like it. It is a far better product in most regards to IE. It is faster to load and works really well with my system. IE is a problomatic pain in the arse and I am glad not to be using it.

One thing though, NetScape does not like PBW when you try to execute a command function. I.E. (no pun intended) when you click the undo turn or approve a player to join a game buttons it generates java script errors. IE does not do this, but given the trade off, I will stick with NetScape for now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, Netscape tends to do that. I use Mozilla and its based off Netscape so I have the same problem. But I just fire up IE for those simple functions and all is well.
Oh, and IMHO, Mozilla's interface and features are alot better then Netscape. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Isn't it the other way around?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Isn't it the other way around?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm, I guess it is. I always thought it was as I said. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I once again need to read more carefully. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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In this thread I have to push for Phoenix, a good fast browser with extra abilities, It's based on Mozilla aswell.

Seems it's been renamed to Firebird.
I'm using Phoenix ver 0.3 and haven't seen any reason to upgrade but might do that later.
Here's a link:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/

It has tabs for new windows and pop-up blocking, you select wich sites are allowed to pop-up and then the pop-ups is in new tabs, functions good.

[ July 07, 2003, 18:51: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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I used to use Netscape to browse until AOL clogged the executeable with bloat code. In those days, I used IE to do PBW. I use Mozilla now, no problems browsing, and using PBW, and it blocks more popups then either Netscape or IE.

I use Proxomitron as a proxy server to block even more popups, but that prevents the PBW site from showing the buttons. Someday I'll figure out what setting is causing that, meanwhile, I just turn in off and refresh when I'm at the PBW site.

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I personally find the Mozilla type browsers to be clunky and in no way better than the IE type browsers. You can get all the features of Phoenix with browsers like MyIE2 without all the junk of Mozilla (and keeping the advancements in HTML possibilities that Microsoft has made, like colors for table borders (which did not work at all Last time I checked Phoenix)).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can tell your browser to bypass the proxy server for specific URLs (such as PBW). PBW does not work well at all when filtered through Proxomitron.

[ July 07, 2003, 19:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For those of us who can't speak French, here's a MyIE2 site in English...

http://myie2.zoniweb.cjb.net/

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Well... the link I was given before had 2 sites, one in French and one in Chinese (at least, I think it was Chinese...). An English site is most helpful. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Load up IE 5.5 sp2 (I have the file if you can't find it) Then apply the security patches. DL and load MS virtual machine, set your security as tight as you want it (tight if you run in the buff and loose if you run a firewall)and you will never want IE6 again.

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Yeah, what Ruatha says. Phoenix is a slick browser and there are Versions for linux and windows.

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Phoenix is not a slick browser. It is full of random glitches and bugs. And, it suffers from the clunkiness of the Mozilla line of browsers.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What, Microsoft actually released some of their source code http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG THEY'RE KILLING INNOCENT PUPPIES!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif QUICK, CALL PETA!!!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Fyron seems to be warming to MyIE2 now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It really is an excellent browser, and whatever misunderstandings their website and documentation has is probably because it's developed by a Chinese software house (at least I think it's a Chinese software house...)

It's able to be based of the IE5.x core probably because Microsoft loves to use DLLs for their apps, so all their other apps can use each other. This means that everyone else can too, they just can't see the code inside.

And my poll on the browser topic has finished... not too many suprises http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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All right then, maybe someone can answer this question about MyIE2... whenever I try to use the mousewheel (really the edge of my laptop's touchpad) to scroll a page, after a few seconds of scrolling the thing just goes spastic and starts scrolling up and down (mostly down) wildly... I reported this as a bug, but it doesn't by any chance happen to be a secret "mouse gesture" I've never heard of, does it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Mouse gestures are only with the right mouse button held down (up-down = refresh, left = back, right = forward, down = new page, up-left = prev. tab, up-right = next tab, down-right = close tab).

To me, it just sounds like it's interpreting you putting your finger down as "up a little" (touch pads are a bit screwy in general), and there's a slight buffering problem with the scroll Messages (scrolling fast causes the scroll Messages to be backed up, and it can keep scrolling for a while after you stop). Does it do this in any other applications?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't go that far... I am still not liking this tabbed browsing thing...

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Well, the random glitches and bugs is not an opinion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As stated I'm using ver 0,3 for about a year now, I still haven't been bothered with a single bug or glitch. Can be that they are in some function I don't use.
I guess I can look at the read-me for ver 0,4 to see what I'm suffering from, but why?

[ July 08, 2003, 21:54: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's your opinion, not mine. I find it a slick browser

[ July 08, 2003, 12:04: Message edited by: minipol ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope, just MyIE2... works just fine in IE, worked just fine in Mozilla (at least once I got that one setting changed that I forgot about... anyone know what I'm talking about? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif then I might just use Mozilla again), works just fine in Word and Notepad...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't had random glitches and bugs with it but i run it under linux.
Maybe that's the difference? Also, i'm strictly talking the browser here, haven't tried any other functionality here.

Edit for zpelink miestakez

[ July 10, 2003, 00:17: Message edited by: minipol ]