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Ed Kolis December 16th, 2003 03:39 PM

Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
I was going to email this to Aaron but I thought I'd post it here first to see what reaction I got...

Small Shield Depleters appear to be the uber-weapon for troops, surpassing even ground cannons - since damage types don't matter, they do massive damage to all enemy troops, and they only take up 2kT and are cheaper than ground cannons! So how about making small shield depleters mountable only on fighters?

oleg December 16th, 2003 04:10 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
I was going to email this to Aaron but I thought I'd post it here first to see what reaction I got...

Small Shield Depleters appear to be the uber-weapon for troops, surpassing even ground cannons - since damage types don't matter, they do massive damage to all enemy troops, and they only take up 2kT and are cheaper than ground cannons! So how about making small shield depleters mountable only on fighters?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">easy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif simply edit components.tct file and set vhicle type := fighters only for small SD.

geoschmo December 16th, 2003 04:42 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Um, wasn't that fixed with 1.84?

Quote:

Version 1.79:
2. Fixed - Shield Depeleters will now work properly against units.
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Asmala December 16th, 2003 05:37 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Um, wasn't that fixed with 1.84?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Version 1.79:
2. Fixed - Shield Depeleters will now work properly against units.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Work properly == do no damage?

geoschmo December 16th, 2003 05:42 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Work properly == do no damage?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It would help me understand you if you'd use complete sentances. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

As I understand it, the problem originally was shield depleters used against units would do normal damage. And under those circumstances Ed would be right, the small shield depleters would rock as troop weapons. But I believe that with 1.84 that was fixed so shield depleters fired against units only deplete the shields instead of doing normal damage.

Although I could be incorrect. Ed, have you tested this to see if it still does what you are saying?

Geoschmo

Asmala December 16th, 2003 05:55 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Asmala:
Work properly == do no damage?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It would help me understand you if you'd use complete sentances. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm, that was indeed quite unclear sentence. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I meant shields are counted as hit points for units, so how the shield depleter works then? Or do troops work differently than other units?

Fyron December 16th, 2003 06:14 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
Geo, he is talking about in troop combat, not any other units. Ground combat follows its own set of rules that are wholely separate from those of regular combat.

Asmala December 16th, 2003 06:48 PM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
How PPB and SD work against fighters/units/drones/weapon platforms? Geoschmo said SD works normally (i.e. depletes shields), but I thought shield points for units are added to their HPs. Is it changed?

Taera December 17th, 2003 02:04 AM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
i guess that they're split into Groups..

parabolize December 17th, 2003 02:41 AM

Re: Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon
 
correct me if i am wrong but didnt all units turn shields into armor befor 1.78 and after 1.78 they had real shields (i know sats make shield picture when hit).


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