Ship and fleet experience
 

I asked MM about fleet experience and got an answer. I asked a clarification to the answer and then I got a second message. Is it my English or why even now I can't understand how the experience is got. I don't want to bug Aaron more if these message are clear enough for somebody so help is appreciated.

First message:
When a ship destroys an enemy ship it receives a single experience point for the kill. Each 5 experience points increase the experience of the ship by one level. If the ship is in a fleet, then all ships in the fleet get 0.1 experience when any of the ships in the fleet achieve a kill.

Second message:
For every kill a ship gets, the fleet it is in gets 0.1 experience for the kill (every ship in the fleet gets 0.1 experience added to it). Each individual ship gets +1% experience for each kill it makes. There is currently a bug in the game where ships are not getting experience for kills via seeker hits. The patch now in progress will fix that problem.

I understood this would be how it works, but it's not correct (except for the first):
Ship experience:
+1% for each kill the ship makes
+0.1% for each kill made by a ship in the same fleet
Fleet experience
+0.1% for each kill made by a ship in the fleet

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

I don't think what Aaron told you is correct at all for ship experience. Maybe that is how he wanted it to work, but it is not how it works. It is indeed one XP per kill, not per 5 kills. I have no idea about fleet experience though.

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

So now, who is coding this sh...y game ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ January 19, 2004, 20:18: Message edited by: oleg ]

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

I think he probably just didn't explain it very clearly. I think what this means is:

+1 ship experience per kill the ship makes.
+0.1 fleet experience per kill the fleet makes.

The stuff he wrote about 5 experience points to go up an experience level is probably referring to the word used to describe the experience level (e.g. Novice, Veteran, Elite, etc.)

The stuff he wrote about ships getting experience for kills their fleet makes is a (confusing) way of explaining the effect of fleet experience. I think it just means the fleet gains experience, and the effect of fleet experience is added to the effect of ship experience. Not that the ship experience actually goes up when some other ship in the fleet makes a kill.

Of course, it's also possible Aaron is mistaken about how it actually works in the current patch.

Now, to test the assertion that fleet experience goes up by +0.1 per ship the fleet kills...

PvK

[ January 19, 2004, 21:07: Message edited by: PvK ]

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

Hrm... that could be it too. Happy testing!

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

Looks like nobody is able to understand how the experience system works. I'll make more tests and then I'll bug Aaron again.

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

I think PvK's interpretation of what Aaron said is the most accurate one...

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

Not 'nobody' then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I'm sure it's not +0.1 fleet experience per kill, because it requires a way more ships than 10 to get 1% of fleet experience.

However I think a ship gets ships experiece also if the fleet its in makes a kill. If you fight a big battle with unexperienced ships, you'll notice the sum of every ship's experience is more than number of enemy ships.

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

oleg always remember the person who really knows a game is the player....

Re: Ship and fleet experience
 

I'm pretty sure that .1 experience per kill for a fleet is wrong.

In a solo game I am playing, I sent out a ship with 6 experience to capture planets. Having captured about 20 planets, killed several satellites, swept many mines and destroyed MAYBE 10 ships (and probably only 5), it now has experience of 9!

I was surprised when it went to 7, so I started paying attention. Two turns later it went to 8!! having captured a couple planets and destroying 1 ship.

There is more to fleet experience than destroying ships, but darned if I can get a handle on it.