Re: Rumor: Kerry & Edwards Want to Ban SEIV
 

WHAT is ultra liberal...

and this liberal labeling system...

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Re: Rumor: Kerry & Edwards Want to Ban SEIV
 

I'm a liberal (well I vote liberal, I'm not a party member) and I'm not against SEIV or wargames.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why? Specifics, please.

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Kerry is a war hero. He at least deserves respect for that.

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There are some slasher, torture and rape games in circulation (not sold over the counter anywhere I think) which are stretching the “freedom of speech” a bit far according to my taste.

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yes: wargames and simulations are ok
NO: I hear of sex games (though I've never seen any) which I see no need for.

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Being "in favor of" could mean that some reporter asked "Would you be in favor of limiting the sales of graphically violent games to children" and they answered "yes".

Thats quite abit off from a bill being brought to the houses for a vote. Its the wording of such bills that need to be watched. Definetly, if you see anything along those lines, let us know. We might need a letter-writing campaign. I know of alot of companys, game communitys, newsGroups, and wargaming conventions that would be VERY interested in making sure that such a bill doesnt slip thru unnoticed.

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Censorship in almost any degree is IMO a bad thing. If we don't want our kids to play violent video games or see objectionable content on TV, both of these things (as well as most other media)have an ON/OFF switch. Consenting adults should be able to view anything that doesn't violate the personal rights of others (kiddie porn, etc.).

Now whether that stuff should be sold to minors, well that's quite a different thing entirely.

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SO, into this discussion let's inject the Patriot Act. It is the other side of the coin, no?

That is, on the one hand it is alleged (falsely, I think) that Kerry is going to censor games - which would be one type of restriction of personal liberty. But the Patriot Act is one of the greatest invasions of privacy/liberty the US has ever known.

Discuss. [grin]

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Computer games industry is a business that worth a billions. Assume 30-50% of games contain violence etc, and it's still billions of $$$. Banning them is equal to banning cigarettes containing nicotine(sp?). This law won't be supported by industry leaders and it means it has no chances.