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Gzian February 17th, 2004 04:29 AM

Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
This is probably a dumb question,but it seems that the better shielding that I get and the bigger the ship that I get, the bigger the pirate ship gets too. There seems to be an emulation. Am I imagining this? Is there any way to stop this so we can eventually stay at least a little ahead of the technology curve?

Phoenix-D February 17th, 2004 04:31 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
As you level the ships do get better. Though not bigger, I think. This doesn't relate to money, just XP.

Not 100% sure on how to disable it..

Suicide Junkie February 17th, 2004 05:53 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
You can increase the maximum tech level that the stores sell to be a few levels higher than the currently deployed (and widely available) tech levels.

In main_stores:
Comp Max Level Ship Level Offset := 1

Vortex February 18th, 2004 02:14 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gzian:
This is probably a dumb question,but it seems that the better shielding that I get and the bigger the ship that I get, the bigger the pirate ship gets too. There seems to be an emulation. Am I imagining this? Is there any way to stop this so we can eventually stay at least a little ahead of the technology curve?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes the pirates get better, they also get more numerous. The curve levels out at about level 14 by which time you should be in, at least a MKIII Abidon Cruiser or a Battleship.
Only the Xiati or Amonkrie become a problem at this point and only if they mount multiple meson cannons - they simply have too fast a firing rate. The big equaliser is the Psychic flail avaialble from your friendly neighbourhood Sithrak http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Gzian February 18th, 2004 02:42 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
Suicide Junkie notes:

You can increase the maximum tech level that the stores sell to be a few levels higher than the currently deployed (and widely available) tech levels.

In main_stores:
Comp Max Level Ship Level Offset := 1

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I don't understand, is this what you are suggesting that I change the file to or are you saying this is the file in the game? If this is the file, what should I change it to?

dHay February 18th, 2004 03:14 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gzian:
Suicide Junkie notes:

You can increase the maximum tech level that the stores sell to be a few levels higher than the currently deployed (and widely available) tech levels.

In main_stores:
Comp Max Level Ship Level Offset := 1

_______________________________________

I don't understand, is this what you are suggesting that I change the file to or are you saying this is the file in the game? If this is the file, what should I change it to?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">IF you want to change behaviour, you change the file.

Currently, with:
Comp Max Level Ship Level Offset := 1

This means that the store will create items to sell that is +/- 1 from your current level.

Thus, if your level is 10, the store will have level 9, 10 and 11 items.

If you change it to:
Comp Max Level Ship Level Offset := 2

The store will have +/- 2 levels, thus 8,9,10,11,12. This means that with a little work, you can have level 12 items when the pirates, etc, will have level 10.

NOTE that the store only reloads:
1. When you quit and restart the game.
2. You leave the system, stay away for a while, then come back. Or some such trigger.

I've not quite figured out #2's behaviour yet, but I haven't been that concerned about it either. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

NOTE that if you go to a Independant Space port (one in a system owned by nobody) you can get a wider variety of items. And can buy any type of ship. Terrans only have terran ships and terran components, etc.

Always remember, this is a COMPUTER game. It is not reality. Thus, it has some odd behaviours that never happen in the real world. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Widowmaker February 18th, 2004 04:33 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
Since I'm just playing the Demo I don't know if this helps.

I move in close for a kill and fire off my four toxic missles. I can ussually get a quick kill without destroying any of there internal parts. I just hope the cargo left behind has the upgraded components I need. It's much cheaper getting them that way, than to pay for them or repair them in the Shipyard. Those components I don't need I can sell off and don't have to worry about repairing them.

I fire Port, Aft, and then Starboard following them in a turn.

[ February 18, 2004, 02:37: Message edited by: Widowmaker ]

PaladinX February 18th, 2004 08:28 AM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
If you change both Comp Ship Max Level Offset and Comp Ship Min Level Offset to the same (Positive) number, the component levels are normalized, so that you only get one specific level of equipment. If you set both to 3 for instance, you only get equipment three levels higher than your character level.

-Musashi

Napster March 10th, 2004 03:52 PM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
[quote]Originally posted by dHay:
Quote:

Originally posted by Gzian:
[qb] Suicide Junkie notes:


NOTE that the store only reloads:
1. When you quit and restart the game.
2. You leave the system, stay away for a while, then come back. Or some such trigger.

I've not quite figured out #2's behaviour yet, but I haven't been that concerned about it either. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">dHay

#2 is actually anytime you dock with another store. Hince if you want to scum for a terran part, go to earth and sit directly between earth and the moon. If the one does not have what your looking for go to the other store. If it also does not have what your looking for go back to the first store and it will have reset the store. (this also works great at getting three deliverys/jobs to the same location/system) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

dHay March 11th, 2004 04:23 PM

Re: Are pirates going up in shields and weapons as I go up?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Napster:

#2 is actually anytime you dock with another store. Hince if you want to scum for a terran part, go to earth and sit directly between earth and the moon. If the one does not have what your looking for go to the other store. If it also does not have what your looking for go back to the first store and it will have reset the store. (this also works great at getting three deliverys/jobs to the same location/system) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ahh. Makes sense. Probably only one active "store" in the game.

The Terran system has enough spaceports in it that you can usually find 3 delivery jobs for the next system. But not having to fly around a lot, I hadn't thought of that one.


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