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st.patrik October 22nd, 2003 04:18 AM

While we\'re waiting for the demo...
 
...does anyone want to share any interesting things they've seen in Dom I games?

I myself was playing around earlier on the Ripple map with some AIs and saw some rather heart-warming action from one of my heroes, or should I say heroines: Rhianne volunteered for service at my castle. After outfitting her with a bag of winds I sent her to the Arena Death Match, which she won (mainly because there were no pretenders involved, and because she had a bag of wind). A little later there is another Death Match, so Rhianne dutifully goes along to represent Man, recently equipped with chainmail of displacement, and a ring of regeneration (as well as her trusty bag of wind and of course the champion's trident). The startling part is that she manages to defeat not only a great mother, but also a titan pretender! Not bad for a back-woods girl! Of course her heroic ability was increased defense, which together with her equipment and experience gave her a def of 37 - which is pretty damn good. After this experience she almost died to friendly fire in a minor skirmish with Caelum - down to 2 HP, but came back, ridding herself of that nasty battle fright due to her ring of regeneration. I really must give her some missile protection. A couple of turns later she went on to kill her 3rd god when I overran Caelum's capital, although this wasn't quite so spectacular, since he was an archmage.

Anyone got any stories?

[ October 22, 2003, 03:19: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

WraithLord October 22nd, 2003 04:44 PM

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I wasn't aware that regeneration heals afflictions. The manual and my expirience suggest otherwise.

MythicalMino October 22nd, 2003 04:49 PM

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my story....

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Nagot Gick Fel October 22nd, 2003 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
...does anyone want to share any interesting things they've seen in Dom I games?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Last merc standing (in SP) - while usually the mercs are prone to flee when they've suffered close to 50% casualties, this wasn't the case this time. I had hired one of the Inquisitor-led mercenary companies and sent them against an independent province, eventually only the leader and a pikeman survived and to my surprise this one stood firm against a dozen or so enemy infantrymen, killed one or two, and made them turn tail and flee. I pledged to myself I would keep this brave merc until I could Gift of Reason him, but alas this never happened.

Mercenary mummy (in MP) - once I tried to resurrect an important mage hero of mine with Ritual of Rebirth, and got an Orion mummy instead. He wasn't listed on the merc roster anymore, didn't ask wages or anything, anyway he was still considered a merc in a way: he still wouldn't give away his items.

The 3 prophets (in MP) - once I managed to enslave 2 enemy prophets (including Etimnu the Wraith Lord, yay! - the other was a Seraphine), I cast Gift of Reason on them later and had them work against their former masters.

First meeting with Bogus (in SP) - you never forget this. I had a 30-40 knights and 200+ longbows nearby when the troll adventurers gave me a visit, and Bogus ate them all without getting a scratch. Awed and shocked I was.

New fresh recruits, ...er, not so fresh - the first time ever I used Master Enslave, and it was in MP. For good measure I even had it cast by 3 different mages (!). At the receiving end was a ~300 army of Ulm, with gobs of Guardians and some BK. Most of them switched sides. But what I hadn't foreseen was the huge supply demand for my now vastly increased army, and I lost most of these excellent troops to disease (while besieging a nearby fortress).

st.patrik October 22nd, 2003 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
The 3 prophets (in MP) - once I managed to enslave 2 enemy prophets (including Etimnu the Wraith Lord, yay! - the other was a Seraphine), I cast Gift of Reason on them later and had them work against their former masters.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Now this is cool! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
First meeting with Bogus (in SP) - you never forget this. I had a 30-40 knights and 200+ longbows nearby when the troll adventurers gave me a visit, and Bogus ate them all without getting a scratch. Awed and shocked I was.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I had some mileage fighting Bogus casting sleep - threw him over 100 fatigue and suddenly he was gone.

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Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
New fresh recruits, ...er, not so fresh - the first time ever I used Master Enslave, and it was in MP. For good measure I even had it cast by 3 different mages (!). At the receiving end was a ~300 army of Ulm, with gobs of Guardians and some BK. Most of them switched sides. But what I hadn't foreseen was the huge supply demand for my now vastly increased army, and I lost most of these excellent troops to disease (while besieging a nearby fortress).
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">all these little things you don't take into consideration...

izaqyos: in my experience, commanders equipped with ring of regen. will sometimes get afflictions, but will heal them in the next couple of rounds. I think if you equip someone with a ring of regen AFTER they get an affliction it's too late to do anything about it. But I've definitely seen the former happen, several times.

Truper October 22nd, 2003 06:57 PM

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I think Rhianne heals afflictions naturally, by way of the unicorn she rides, and I think that may also be true of Bernlad. Its been my experience that rings of regeneration do not heal afflictions, whether the affliction was acquired before or after the ring was equipped. Is it possible that the healing behavior you attibuted to the rings was actually due to unicorns? Have you seen it with commanders from nations other than Man?

st.patrik October 22nd, 2003 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Truper:
I think Rhianne heals afflictions naturally, by way of the unicorn she rides, and I think that may also be true of Bernlad. Its been my experience that rings of regeneration do not heal afflictions, whether the affliction was acquired before or after the ring was equipped. Is it possible that the healing behavior you attibuted to the rings was actually due to unicorns? Have you seen it with commanders from nations other than Man?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I haven't seen it with Hildegard, who rides a unicorn and is Ulmish. Can't think of anyone else right now... Maybe it is due to unicorns, but in the Bernlad description it attributes his regenerative abilities to his armour, for whatever that's worth.

I think I have seen this effect before with non-unicorn commanders too, but I'm not 100% positive about this. Perhaps one of the devs can speak to this issue?

BTW, since I posted Last Rhianne has managed to kill another 2 gods! She killed a manticore and a prince of death. Now her defense is a shocking 44 - I think she should vie for godhood. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

johan osterman October 22nd, 2003 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Truper:
I think Rhianne heals afflictions naturally, by way of the unicorn she rides, and I think that may also be true of Bernlad. Its been my experience that rings of regeneration do not heal afflictions, whether the affliction was acquired before or after the ring was equipped. Is it possible that the healing behavior you attibuted to the rings was actually due to unicorns? Have you seen it with commanders from nations other than Man?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I haven't seen it with Hildegard, who rides a unicorn and is Ulmish. Can't think of anyone else right now... Maybe it is due to unicorns, but in the Bernlad description it attributes his regenerative abilities to his armour, for whatever that's worth.

I think I have seen this effect before with non-unicorn commanders too, but I'm not 100% positive about this. Perhaps one of the devs can speak to this issue?

BTW, since I posted Last Rhianne has managed to kill another 2 gods! She killed a manticore and a prince of death. Now her defense is a shocking 44 - I think she should vie for godhood. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The regeneration of Bernlad is intrinisc. All units riding unicorns recovers from afflictions.

Jasper October 23rd, 2003 12:44 AM

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The regeneration of Bernlad is intrinisc. All units riding unicorns recovers from afflictions.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What other units intrinsicly heal? I've seen Pangaen units do it, but are there any other special cases? What about Pretenders?

johan osterman October 23rd, 2003 02:01 AM

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by johan osterman:
The regeneration of Bernlad is intrinisc. All units riding unicorns recovers from afflictions.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What other units intrinsicly heal? I've seen Pangaen units do it, but are there any other special cases? What about Pretenders? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Medusa in dom 1. In dom 2 ancient krakens and great bulls as well.

I dont recall any others off the top of my head.

[ October 23, 2003, 01:01: Message edited by: johan osterman ]


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