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Aristoteles October 27th, 2003 04:28 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
The AI could be better. I play with 'normal' AIs right now, but the AI ain't that good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Rollo October 27th, 2003 04:31 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
posting my comment for the 'other' field: modability http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

DominionsFan October 27th, 2003 04:34 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Hey! IW devs are already working on the mod tools! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Aristoteles October 27th, 2003 06:01 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
It seems that it wasn't me the only one, who didnt liked the weak AI:


What should IW improve in Dominions II.?
Choose 2
GFX 0% (0)
Music & SFX 0% (0)
AI 77% (10)
Game balance 15% (2)
UI (User Interface) 15% (2)


What do you think about the Dominions II. AI?
Choose 1
Excellent 8% (1)
Good 15% (2)
Average 38% (5)
Below average 23% (3)
Poor 15% (2)


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Mortifer October 27th, 2003 06:50 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Update #1.

What should IW improve in Dominions II.?
AI 80% (12)

**Interesting** The AI is really that bad?


What new content would you like to see in Dominions II.?
Diplomacy 60% (9)

**Not a surprise so far**


Do you play single or multi?
I only play SP 53% (8)
I prefer SP, but rarely I play MP 20% (3)

**I am kinda surprised, so far the majority voted for SP**


What do you think about the Dominions II. AI?
Average 40% (6)
Below average 27% (4)

**WOW!, interesting**


Keep voting lads!

Kristoffer O October 27th, 2003 07:19 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Update #1.

What should IW improve in Dominions II.?
AI 80% (12)

**Interesting** The AI is really that bad?



<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, but it is the only thing that isn't better than anything you have ever seen before http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

-Storm- October 27th, 2003 10:01 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Mortifer:
Update #1.

What should IW improve in Dominions II.?
AI 80% (12)

**Interesting** The AI is really that bad?



<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, but it is the only thing that isn't better than anything you have ever seen before http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Eh? The truth is that the AI is weak. Even I was able to beat it easily. [I am not a very experienced Dominions player]

I think, that Illwinter should drop all Dominions projects and start to working on the AI, ASAP. It must be upgraded.
I bought Warlords 4. since I've seen Mortifer's post about it. I must admit that the Warlords 4. AI is very good. You guys should buy that game to check out a really powerful AI.
Seriously something must be done with the Dominions AI. I don't know who coded it, but he/she failed.
Other than the AI, the demo is good. The sad part is, that the AI should be the most important thing on the list. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
If you guys cannot make a good AI, drop the singleplayer part, since it is pathetic with a bad AI.
However checking out the polls...it seems that around 10/8 players are SPers......ergo you guys should focus on the AI - SP part, but real fast.

[ October 27, 2003, 20:03: Message edited by: -Storm- ]

Saber Cherry October 27th, 2003 10:04 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
(the AI) is the only thing that isn't better than anything you have ever seen before http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Untrue!!! I keep clicking on my units, and they never say "Stop tickling me" or "Zug-zug". What kind of game has mute units?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

P.S. As for what additions I want - I'd like to see the "Heroic Tentacles" hero ability, and some other new heroisms. It just doesn't seem very fantastic otherwise http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Seriously, though, 1000 spells, 1000 units, and 1000 hero types would be a nice "Golden Triad" of infinite replayability=)

[ October 27, 2003, 20:08: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

-Storm- October 27th, 2003 10:06 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
(the AI) is the only thing that isn't better than anything you have ever seen before http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Untrue!!! I keep clicking on my units, and they never say "Stop tickling me" or "Zug-zug". What kind of game has mute units?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Saber, you barely make any constructive comments....kinda annoying. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

MythicalMino October 27th, 2003 10:14 PM

Re: Poll #2. [Try out the demo, and vote after that!]
 
ok, let me spell this out for you....this poll is only being answered by ppl that post here....

There are MANY other ppl that are VERY MUCH not into single player...ok? There are M A N Y ppl that are N O T into SP, regardless of this poll....Like I said before, go to #dominions on irc, ask them what they play...SP or MP....They will tell you.

I don't care if they don't post here or not. I don't care if they are in a MP chat room, There are many ppl that prefer MP.

I am not sure why you guys cannot understand that.

Now, after saying that, I myself am primarily a SP type of person....but I also understand that Dominions series games are made with MP in mind. What you guys are trying to ask for, is getting a game that is made for MP (Day of Defeat....or Savage....), and complaining that there is no SP content.

Go on, ask the guys over at #dominions on irc....what they prefer...ask them.

Besides...Warlords 4 is a VERY not complex game compared to Dominions. So yes, the AI can be stronger in that game...How many units are in Warlords 4? how many spells? How many nations?

Dominions does what these other games cannot...the amount of units/spells/magical items/nations....summed up in one word: CONTENT.

This whole "discussion" that the fans want SP...when it is not true...is getting old. I mean, a whole 20 ppl has voted...wow....I want SP content added also...a good diplomacy system would make this THE perfect game ever....but if it doesn't get in...then I say "oh well, MP calls"

Please, stop trying to coerce the devs to do "single player stuff" because the "fans" only play single player...stop trying to "redesign" the devs vision...


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