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JLXC February 2nd, 2001 09:33 PM

Satellite Questions?
 
Actually several questions...

1. Do robominer facilities in Sat.'s work?

2. Can you have 1 of each Type of robominer working the same planet?

3. Can you use robominers and the planet upgrade facility to achieve infinte mining?

Thanks..

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jimbob55 February 2nd, 2001 09:57 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
1. Yes.

2. I think you can if they are all in the same ship

3. You can't remote mine a colonised planet (at least I don't think you can). You could colonise, build all Value improvement facilities (up to 25 or 30 for huge gas giant) wait for a couple of centuries and then abandon / scrap the colony and get good remote mining values. It would be more effective to just colonise + mine though.

Remote mining is mainly there to provide some way of mining asteroids + planets you can't colonise though.

alasyr February 5th, 2001 05:16 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
1. yes

2. yes, you can RM with 3 sattelites (1 with miner, 1 with farmer and one with extractor)

3. If you take relgious techs you probaly slow down min. concentration dropping by 3 ponts a year wth Nature Shrine III (improves planet value 3% a year, year being 10 turns)

I think that best remote miners are bases (half the maintenance)

Drake February 5th, 2001 05:51 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
The nature shrine only works on planets you've colonized.

raynor February 5th, 2001 08:01 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
Haven't tried doing the remote mining thing because I didn't want to permanently hurt the resources on an asteroid soon to become a planet...

Doesn't it say that only one ship at a time can be remote mining an asteroid?

How does it work when you use satellites? Does this 'rule' mean that only one satellite can be mining at once? Or, does it work out that satellites aren't affected by the rule?

If you can only put a single miner on a large satellite, then wouldn't it be a *MAJOR* waste of resources to mine with just a single satellite per resource?

Thanks.

[This message has been edited by raynor (edited 05 February 2001).]

Triumvir Emphy February 6th, 2001 03:41 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
Sat's of the same kind are placed in a group, this group counts as 1 unit (= 1 ship)

Atleast that is what i have found sofar.

You can remote mine asteriods and planets with no colony on them.

Remote mining from a base is a waste, as you pay maintenance, and it becomes increasingly more wastefull as you decrease the value of the asteriod/planet by 1% each turn.


Sat's are economical because 1) you don't pay maintenance and 2) you get to pick them up and move them once you have stripped the target.

I produce 3 Groups of sat's and a transport ship to hover them around. After i deplete the metal stuff, i send in the veggie sats and after that the rad's, sucking the asteriods/planets down to 30% (after that it isn't worth it for me anymore.)

Drake February 6th, 2001 04:57 PM

Re: Satellite Questions?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Triumvir Emphy:
Sat's are economical because 1) you don't pay maintenance and 2) you get to pick them up and move them once you have stripped the target.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, at first I thought this was a great idea, so I went and tested it. What I found, was that I only got resources from ONE of the satellites in a group.

I colonized a huge planet, filled it with cargo space, and built 1000 farming satellites. It had a moon that I colonized and value improved to 250%. I abandoned the moon, then launched the 1000 satallites as a group. Instead of 800 per component * 1000 satellites * 2.5 planet modifier = 2,000,000 organics that turn, I only got 2,000. Bummer. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

So, since the planet still drops by 1% because you mined it, satellites are one of the least effective methods of remote mining. One exception is if you play with a huge maintenance penalty, so that you rarely recover your maintenance costs on mining ships, but in that case you shouldn't be remote mining anyway.

-Drake


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