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Vger January 6th, 2004 12:12 AM

Affliction record?
 
Hi,

This game is so addictive it should probably be illegal. I'm playing Pangea normal vs 4 Difficult AIs (Man, Ulm Pythium [defeated by cps] and C'tis). I've bunkered in and am gradually creating SCs to send out and expand.

So far, I've been using Golems, with Robe of Invulnerability, Charcoal Shield, Elixir of Life, Regen ring, trample boots and Elf Bane. (If anyone has suggestions on equipment, I'd be interested.)

Now, to the point. I have this poor old Golem, Erborn. He now has 8! afflictions. I was wondering what the record was and thought it might be amusing to post some of the situations and combinations.

Erborn was defending a province by himself, no defense (as I don't want the wimpy def troops to rout off) for several turns (Last turn he finally got another Golem to help). Every turn he's been attacked by Ulm.

One battle, many turns ago, seemed to give him most of his maladies, but this Last battle gave him his latest injury. That first battle was the only one I thought would be a challenge. It was Erborn and an Iron Dragon vs a bunch of rabble led by a couple of lizard riders and Pig Boy. (I don't remember what he's called, but he looks like a pig in red robes.) There were also a bunch of big (size 4) dudes in grey armor. These guys and Pig Boy managed to kill the ID, but eventually, between Elf Bane and Trampling, Erborn prevailed.

So, now here's the list (the Last three affictions I think are hilarious, taken together):

Lost one eye
Lost the other eye, as well
Chest wound
Limp (probably from banging around blind)
Never healing wound
Mute (so much for Body Ethereal)
Feeble minded (not that he'd remember to cast it)
Lost the head (no spell casting for yooooooooou)

And in this pitiful state, he still keeps on ticking and giving out a licking, blindly trampling around stomping on his foes who've set themselves on fire trying to kill him.

Now, if I could only give him some award, prize, mutation for his noble service so well above and beyond the call.

I've made the Chalice and have the other golem building a lab (he now has 3 afflictions) and am going to try and pull him out so he can recover.

I don't know, just this lost one eye, lost the other eye, struck mute, made feeble ... oh, and by the way, YOU LOST YOUR HEAD! Just cracks me up.


Love, love, love this game,
V'ger gone


P.S.

I gave Erborn the Chalice and sat him out a turn. Voila! He now has an eye back and is no longer feebleminded. As to where his new eye and mind are ...?

[ January 05, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: Vger ]

Sammual January 6th, 2004 02:15 AM

Re: Affliction record?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
This game is so addictive it should probably be illegal.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My wife argees with you.

My record for afflictions is 9, sounds like you are on the way to beating it.

Cast Gift of Health. Your poor Golum will thank you.

Sammual

Vger January 6th, 2004 07:13 AM

Re: Affliction record?
 
Hi,

Thanks for replying. Yeah, I got the poor thing out of the front lines and gave it the Chalice. I also finally got Gift up. I'd been battling C'tis trying to dispel their Burden of Time. There were already 5 globals up and I cast Gift 2 times before making it in. Heck, I cast dispel 3 times before getting it to work. I had boosted with 15, then 30 and finally 90! astral gems before succeeding.

He's now down to one affliction, a never healing wound. I'm waiting for that to clear before sending him back in.


Ciao,
V'ger gone

[ January 06, 2004, 05:15: Message edited by: Vger ]

General Tacticus January 6th, 2004 08:15 AM

Re: Affliction record?
 
I saw a pretender lich acquire 7 afflictions in one long fight in the arena (against a prophet that kept trying to banish it). It eventually won, but another prophet finished it easily in the next round...

Wendigo January 6th, 2004 09:02 AM

Re: Affliction record?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
Hi,
So far, I've been using Golems, with Robe of Invulnerability, Charcoal Shield, Elixir of Life, Regen ring, trample boots and Elf Bane. (If anyone has suggestions on equipment, I'd be interested.)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ring-> useless, regenration doesn't work on lifeless critters such as constructs

boots+axe-> when trampling you are not using your weapon, so it's not an optimum combo as you will only use the axe vs critters with equal or bigger size. Thus there might be better options for the hand slot, basically something that gives benefits every combat round, and not ocasionally.

ExitJudas January 6th, 2004 09:21 AM

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hahaha! what an amazing story. That golem is definelty to die for.

Personally I'm still waiting for my own copy of the game. Should be here any day now.

Saber Cherry January 6th, 2004 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Wendigo:
boots+axe-> when trampling you are not using your weapon, so it's not an optimum combo as you will only use the axe vs critters with equal or bigger size. Thus there might be better options for the hand slot, basically something that gives benefits every combat round, and not ocasionally.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. Specifically, a main gauche. Or else a lucky sword... either one is good. And cheap. A long weapon like a spear (especially a poisoned one) or whip (length 5, with various effects) is good for repels, too.

Psitticine January 6th, 2004 06:00 PM

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A big Golem needs a big weapon. This kind of job calls for . . .

MIDGET MASHER!!!!

Heh-heh-heh! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Chris Byler January 6th, 2004 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Sammual:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Vger:
This game is so addictive it should probably be illegal.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My wife argees with you.

My record for afflictions is 9, sounds like you are on the way to beating it.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm, let me see if I still have the replay from when I discovered the Crystal Heart bug... of course, the target in that battle wasn't inanimate, so wasn't eligible for some afflictions such as lost head.

Diseased
Lost one eye
Lost the other eye
Weakened
Chest wound
Never Healing Wound
Mute
Feeble Minded
Lost an arm

...oddly, despite dying hundreds of times he never got Battle Fright. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Maybe gods are immune?

Edit: also, he didn't get limp or crippled, probably because he is mounted. So if you really want to see all the possible afflictions, give a crystal heart to an ordinary commander on foot and let him take a province by himself. You might need something to help you kill them faster after becoming blind, one-armed and feebleminded: I suggest a damage aura like rime hauberk. Snake bladder stick + snake ring might work too, I don't know if the poison cloud appears even if you miss.

BTW, is the leadership reduction from Mute cumulative with that from Feeble Minded? The god in the above example had normal leadership 4 (no undead or magic leadership). I don't remember what's normal for a freak lord though.
Quote:

Cast Gift of Health. Your poor Golum will thank you.

Sammual
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It really shouldn't work on inanimate and undead units (and possibly not on demons). Illwinter?

BTW - I hope that when you lose a head, you also lose the eyes and mouth in it (assuming, of course, that inanimate beings still use their eyes to see and their mouths to speak).

[ January 06, 2004, 20:18: Message edited by: Chris Byler ]

Vger January 7th, 2004 05:28 AM

Re: Affliction record?
 
Hi,

Thanks for all the replies, y'all.

Saber, my script for Golems is Body Eth, Personal Luck, Twist Fate, then attack closest. Wouldn't he use his weapon?

If he doesn't, then I might take back the boots and give him Boots of Quickness rather than replace the weapon. I want to be sure to have a solution for magic/large/ethereals, etc.

I've come to the conclusion that even the Chalice will not heal Never Healing Wound as I've left it on two different Golems that had that affliction for several turns with no result. I'm working my way up to Fairy Court to see if she can help out.


Erborn is still alive and back in action. Though another Golem has killed far more. Erborn has only killed 259 while Topigog has hacked up 1193. I'm trying to send them in pairs, but it takes so much in resources and time to create their equipment.

I'm getting very serious attacks on all border provinces that I have to carefully manage any expansion so that I don't leave myself vulnerable.

I think I'm going to try bigger summons, one of the Elemental Kings/Queen or Father Illearth. (Illearth will require making some artifacts to pump up a Pan.)

It's such fun watching these HUGE armies get slaughtered by two of my Golems. Great, great game.

Ciao,
V'ger gone


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