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SurvivalistMerc January 18th, 2004 02:36 AM

A new kind of map
 
I remember fondly the maps of Master of Magic, which were somewhat random in nature.

These maps had one thing in common...east-west you could circumnavigate the worlds...but north-south you couldn't.

I think wrap-around maps are wonderful, but if you had some impassible areas at the poles...you wouldn't have borders with so many different nations at once.

Just a thought. This may not be as "rational" in the Dom2 universe as there are certainly nations such as Jotunheim and Caelum which would be "at home" in the polar cold.

Saber Cherry January 18th, 2004 02:43 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Try Ringworld=)

Gandalf Parker January 18th, 2004 03:03 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
I remember fondly the maps of Master of Magic, which were somewhat random in nature.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Random maps we are working on. I generate a fresh 30 maps a day
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion...s2/RandomMaps/

There are maps that are re-randomized as far as whats on the .map tho not the .tga
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion.../MiirunstX.map

Soon I hope to get something going which is both a randomly created .tga and a randomized .map

SurvivalistMerc January 18th, 2004 04:10 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
I will try ringworld. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And your random map project is wonderful, Gandalf.

PvK January 18th, 2004 04:42 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Great random maps, Gandalf! What a selection... hmm... it might be nice to have it also make thumbnail images of the map, and a simple web page that displays them and counts of land and water provinces... if that's easy. Just an idea - it's still well worth the time to download the TGAs to see the maps. So many!

Edit: Oh, I see that's probably partly why you have JPG Versions of all of them, too.

PvK

[ January 18, 2004, 02:43: Message edited by: PvK ]

PvK January 18th, 2004 04:51 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
... Just a thought. This may not be as "rational" in the Dom2 universe as there are certainly nations such as Jotunheim and Caelum which would be "at home" in the polar cold.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hopefully even the "despisers of realism in games" would agree that marching north across the north pole generally does not arrive one at the south pole. Even if you can survive at the poles, there isn't necessarily a teleporter between them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PvK

Gandalf Parker January 18th, 2004 05:29 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PvK:
Great random maps, Gandalf! What a selection... hmm... it might be nice to have it also make thumbnail images of the map, and a simple web page that displays them and counts of land and water provinces... if that's easy. Just an idea - it's still well worth the time to download the TGAs to see the maps. So many!

Edit: Oh, I see that's probably partly why you have JPG Versions of all of them, too.

PvK

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the comments folks.
This is what I had going for the Dom1 maps.
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion...humbnails.html

I will probably set it up for the Dom2 maps eventually. For the moment I dont really need to post anything about land/water because all the Dom2 maps so far are 400 land and 50 water.

SurvivalistMerc January 18th, 2004 08:20 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
PVK,

I guess I had assumed that the equator was in the middle and at the top and bottom edges.

I mean...the essence of a globe is you can go around it any direction you want.

But I still find double-wrap-around maps annoying, while I find single-wrap-around maps fun.

with the double wrap around variety...if you zoom out far enough...you will see double of everything, which isn't good.

Kristoffer O January 18th, 2004 11:23 AM

Re: A new kind of map
 
The world map is also east-west wraparound. If you have broadband, try it.

It feels good to build hybrids in polynesia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I personally like one way wraps best in SP, but two way wraps are very much fun in MP. You have more neighbours and expansion options.

[ January 18, 2004, 09:24: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

Gandalf Parker January 18th, 2004 03:47 PM

Re: A new kind of map
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
I mean...the essence of a globe is you can go around it any direction you want.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes but I see the point about going over the north pole shouldnt land you at the south pole. A map which properly fixes that would actually have a few snowy provinces at the top and each one of those connect to many of the upper provinces. Same at the bottom. That would properly represent a globe where going thru the north pole just lets you connect to the northern provinces on all of the northern hemisphere continents.

Quote:

with the double wrap around variety...if you zoom out far enough...you will see double of everything, which isn't good.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes that can be confusing. Try the "insert" or "delete" key. It jump those maps to a full screen image. Much nicer.


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