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onomastikon February 5th, 2004 12:05 PM

Question about Horrors
 
Can someone help me out?

I have had some success with Send Horrors, but have seen some conflicting results of horrors on the battlefield with me present. I have seen horrors attack my army as well. Does this happen all the time? I know false horrors never hurt me, but what about real ones? Are the targets of a horror random, or does it just keep on attacking until nothing is left, or are there other rules? Are certain things immune to it? Does being horror marked mean a horror will attack you out of the blue or only if one is summoned by an enemy on the battlefield you are on or if one is summoned by anyone? And if one is summoned and you are horror-marked, will it first attack you, then any other horror marked, then the enemy -- or then the nearest?
Wondering also, because some nice items give you horror mark and others let you summon them. Thanks.

Bossemanden February 5th, 2004 03:11 PM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
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Originally posted by onomastikon:
Can someone help me out?

I have had some success with Send Horrors, but have seen some conflicting results of horrors on the battlefield with me present. I have seen horrors attack my army as well. Does this happen all the time? I know false horrors never hurt me, but what about real ones? Are the targets of a horror random, or does it just keep on attacking until nothing is left, or are there other rules? Are certain things immune to it? Does being horror marked mean a horror will attack you out of the blue or only if one is summoned by an enemy on the battlefield you are on or if one is summoned by anyone? And if one is summoned and you are horror-marked, will it first attack you, then any other horror marked, then the enemy -- or then the nearest?
Wondering also, because some nice items give you horror mark and others let you summon them. Thanks.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">IIRC Horrors on the battlefield are a "neutral" party. They want to kille everyone. I think they prefer horrormarked units though.
If a unit is horrormarked there is a chance each turn that a Horror or Lesser Horror will attack like an assasination.

velk February 6th, 2004 01:04 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
The frequency of horrors attacking horror marked people is drastically increased when the astral corruption global is in effect. If you have powerful horror marked mages when that goes up you might as well kiss them goodbye - doom horrors are pretty much the deadliest one on one units that exist.

Argitoth February 6th, 2004 01:15 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
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Originally posted by velk:
The frequency of horrors attacking horror marked people is drastically increased when the astral corruption global is in effect. If you have powerful horror marked mages when that goes up you might as well kiss them goodbye - doom horrors are pretty much the deadliest one on one units that exist.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Do they have good magic resistance? I mean, disintegration could work while protecting your mage with other units. Maybe also casting a powerful high-damage spell

I've actually never been worried about horror mark. It's so rare to get attacked by a horror that I enjoy seeing it even if my mage dies... maybe that's just because of my lack of experience, i dunno.

Bowlingballhead February 6th, 2004 01:33 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
Their magic resistance is superior to a god's. They have a strength 25 armor-negating attack with an attack skill of 25 - and that's just one of their attacks. They fly, and thus will cross the entire battlefield in a single round, ignoring everything in their path to get to a horror-marked unit.

Maybe if you were a gigantic unit with immense regeneration and magic resistance (to try and resist the Soul Slay attack) you could survive long enough to kill a Doom Horror. Oh, did I mention their defense of 25 and their protection of 20? But basically, unless you use the Recall spell to retreat, you're dead.

Even Lesser Horrors are amazing supercombatants. Horrors are a large order of magnitude worse. Doom Horrors are an order of magnitude worse than that. I'm not sure what the King of the World is. I think that may be Kurgi. His stats seem pretty similar to a Doom Horror's.

I still need to wish for one of these babies sometime. An army might be able to wear them down. It would be interesting to watch.

Gandalf Parker February 6th, 2004 01:41 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
I played with them as my god. And even worse as my prophet. WAY too out of balance.

Argitoth February 6th, 2004 07:19 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
A massive damaging fire, heat, cold, or electric attack would work. You never said Doom Horrors were immunute to the elements.

Graeme Dice February 6th, 2004 07:31 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
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Originally posted by Argitoth:
A massive damaging fire, heat, cold, or electric attack would work. You never said Doom Horrors were immunute to the elements.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what blood vengeance is for. Casting a spell on hit will cause your own unit the damage if it fails a magic resist check against a penetration bonus of 2. If it does get hurt, it can heal itself back up against non-lifeless targets with lifedrain. Put an amulet of antimagic and a regeneration item on it for good measure.

Graeme Dice February 6th, 2004 07:39 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
The stats for doom horrors are:
Hitpoints: 74, size 6.
Protection: 25
Morale: 30
Magic Resistance: 20
Encumbrance: 0
Strength: 20
Attack Skill: 23
Defense Skill: 25
Move: 10/4
Leadership: 25
Amphibian
Fear +15
Magic Being
Need not Eat
Ethereal
Flying
Blood Vengeance +2

It's four weapons are:
Soul Leech: 0 armor negating damage. MR negates.
Life Drain: 0 Armor Piercing.
Consume Soul: Death. MR negates.
Astral Claw: 0, armor negating.

[ February 06, 2004, 05:39: Message edited by: Graeme Dice ]

Arryn February 6th, 2004 07:43 AM

Re: Question about Horrors
 
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
The stats for doom horrors are:

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">nasty. Stay away, stay very far away ...


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