Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

Just got my March copy of "Computer Games" and Dominions II: Ascension Wars was rated 3rd best agme of the year, beat out only by KOTR and GTA:VC.

[ February 06, 2004, 17:39: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

Should be #1 (imho) but its still a great mention for people who have never heard of the game.

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

I'd say it should have been number 1, but at least some reviewers understand its value enough to rate it third. People these days are more interested in stealing cars and shooting people. I can't judge KOTOR, but if any other game of GTA is a good basis, GTA:VC has about five minutes at most of play value before you realize stealing cars and running around gets boring really really fast.

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unlike you and me who are more interested in wholesome activities such as genocidal warfare and sacrificing innocent young girls.

[ February 06, 2004, 22:39: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Having finished 3 games of KotOR, I can say without bias that KotOR is deserving of the Game of the Year award it's been getting from various magazines. Knights is a more polished game (translated: prettier, well-documented, and with very few bugs) and in a genre with much broader appeal than TBS games like Dom. Call of Duty, a FPS, has been a runner-up for the title, and is also pretty, well-documented, and nearly bug-free. But one must consider that each of these games has a huge organization with a huge budget behind it. That KotOR or CoD is rating higher does not, in any way, detract from the kudos that Dom 2 and IW are also deserving, for having put out a truly remarkable, sophisticated strategy game with very deep and rich gameplay.

One just has to consider that even if Dom was as fancy as Knights or Call or any of the other popular games, and bug-free, and had a huge (expensive) manual, and anything else that people may feel is lacking, then Dom would still not be popular simply because it's in a niche genre.

Consider that I own Knights (~1 week to finish a game), Call of Duty (~3 days to finish), Deus Ex 2 (~14 hours by savegame timestamps to finish), and quite a few other titles. The game I've been playing for over a month now is Dom ...

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One just has to consider that even if Dom was as fancy as Knights or Call or any of the other popular games, and bug-free, and had a huge (expensive) manual, and anything else that people may feel is lacking, then Dom would still not be popular simply because it's in a niche genre.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm not so sure. Civilization was pretty big. Ofcourse Civ was pretty much the first of its kind, and simple enough to be played by anyone. Dom2 is probably a bit deeper in the same niche (though not quite as deep as stars!, I think).


mcv.

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unlike you and me who are more interested in wholesome activities such as genocidal warfare and sacrificing innocent young girls. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Virgins. They have to be virgins. Young doesn't count, and "innocent" is way too vague.

Oh, and you forgot the religious nut thing. It's not just free genocide; it's a religion-based thing.

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

So who wants to bet on which game will get Banned first when John Kerry or some other Democrat gets elected president of the United States...

-Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (carjacking, brutal murder)
-Counterstrike (half the players are fekking TERRORISTS)
-Dominions 2 (sacrifice of virgins; holy war)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'd like to remind you that it's fascist Republicans like Bush's pet John Ashcroft who are fond of censorship and invasion of privacy. Patriot Act, anyone? Democrats traditionally are for "liberal" ideas such as freedom of choice and freedom of speech. Republicans favor imposing minority moral standards on the rest of us.

BTW, go read Orwell's 1984 again, and then take a good look at America post 9/11.

Re: Congrats in order to Illwinter & Shrapnel:
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unlike you and me who are more interested in wholesome activities such as genocidal warfare and sacrificing innocent young girls. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Amen brother! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif