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IKerensky February 16th, 2004 08:54 PM

Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
I just lost my Astral 5, Banner of the Northed to Astral 6, Prince of Death Ermor pretender to a ....

Jotunheim , goblin mage with a puny astral 1 !!!!

I think this guy could just got the award for the best gold/kill ratio, except if you consider a pretender is free...

Anyway, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG

Norfleet February 16th, 2004 08:59 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IKerensky:
I just lost my Astral 5, Banner of the Northed to Astral 6, Prince of Death Ermor pretender to a ....

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're only 5 astral ranks above your target: If you're not at least 6 Astral ranks better than your magic duel target, you will probably die.

SurvivalistMerc February 16th, 2004 10:34 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Actually, I would love to see the same open-ended d6's used with astral duel that are used elsewhere. That would make astral risky for everyone, but there is, I'm sure, a reason why the devs decided not to use open ended dice here.

From what I've heard, it's your astral plus 1d6.

You: 6
Them: 1

If you roll 1 and they roll 6. (1/36 chance), then you both die. This isn't even a less than 1% chance regarding what occurred.

I find that the computer rarely forces an astral duel. So I try to avoid them unless I'm attacking something a lot more valuable than what I'm risking or have a great chance of success.

I've found those astral-2 merc magi quite useful against AIs that put astral 1 or 2 on their pretenders. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Raz 24 February 17th, 2004 03:10 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Also the banner lower resistance to magic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Graeme Dice February 17th, 2004 03:30 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Raz 24:
Also the banner lower resistance to magic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Magic resist doesn't have anything to do with magic duel, and the banner only lowers the carriers magic resistance.

Blofeld February 17th, 2004 03:43 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
I once saw my assault force including 2 Archdevils break their teeth on Astral-9 AI Sphinx pretender.
Until he cast Magic Duel on turn ~25 vs my astral-1 mage.
Puff! Goodbye mr. Sphinx! Better luck next time.

SurvivalistMerc February 17th, 2004 04:46 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Blofeld,

I must confess that I am puzzled as to exactly what happened in that magic duel. This does not fit the description of magic duel given by the devs to Saber Cherry and me in another post.

tinkthank February 18th, 2004 01:01 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
Blofeld,

I must confess that I am puzzled as to exactly what happened in that magic duel. This does not fit the description of magic duel given by the devs to Saber Cherry and me in another post.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Could you give a link to that post please? thank you.

SurvivalistMerc February 18th, 2004 04:28 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
I couldn't easily find it. But it's entitled something like "Saber Cherry...an astral favor if you please."

Saber Cherry February 18th, 2004 06:18 PM

Re: Why I wont use magic duel , ever, never again, I swear
 
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...=000772#000000

It's one post down.


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