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Mad Gus February 27th, 2004 01:53 PM

How does the AI raise armies?
 
First off, I'm a newbiew. I'm currently playing my second game. Do AI nations raise armies the same as human players? Or are they just given armies. I am asking because in my current game the Jotun nation was moving on me with some sizable forces. We fought for several turns and we both lost the majority of our forces. A turn or two later he now has 3 provinces containing with 70-90 troops. I read another post on how the AI seems to go with cheap units but wouldn't he be hampered by resource restrictions just like me? I don't have a problem with the computer "cheating", I was just curious.

General Tacticus February 27th, 2004 03:04 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
From my experiences with the AI, the computer has some target number of armies he wants to meet as soon as possible. When he is under that number, he'll recruit as many units as he can each turn, starting with the cheapest (and remember that he knows exactly how and where to buy the cheapest armies). Once he has met that number, he'll start working on quality.

You can often find units with a 3 resource cost in indy provinces, which means 10 units/turn for a mountain province with that kind of unit. Numbers can go up quite fast at this rate, and that is the kind of micromanagement the AI is best at. As for cheating, the AI has more design points for his god at difficulties above normal, which can translate into more resources and more gold, but not that much.

Mad Gus February 27th, 2004 03:18 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
I did know those facts (but thanks for the responses).
I think I scouted at least 2 of those provinces (2 seperate scouts). I am also getting reports from other provinces of 20-40 troops.
Maybe I'll get some more facts tonight and post them. I was just surprised even if those reports are doubled at how quickly he was able to gather such large forces.

[ February 27, 2004, 13:19: Message edited by: Mad Gus ]

Peter Ebbesen February 27th, 2004 03:29 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mad Gus:
I was just surprised even if those reports are doubled at how quickly he was able to gather such large forces.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You could probably raise troops just as quickly, if you were willing to spend most of your money on low-resource light infantry and the like http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PDF February 27th, 2004 03:37 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mad Gus:
I did know those facts (but thanks for the responses).
I think I scouted at least 2 of those provinces (2 seperate scouts). I am also getting reports from other provinces of 20-40 troops.
Maybe I'll get some more facts tonight and post them. I was just surprised even if those reports are doubled at how quickly he was able to gather such large forces.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Scouts give changing and inaccurate reporting in the 50%-200% range. So the AI maybe has like 30 units , and did'nt double its army overnight ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mad Gus February 27th, 2004 04:32 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
I suppose I could be overreacting too. Things were going quite well until Last nights turns. This huge Jotun force invaded, some unknown Pretender keeps lightning bolting my troops from afar, and I lost a lot of commanders and troops (Expensive Atlantean ones).

Bossemanden February 27th, 2004 04:47 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
[quote]Originally posted by PDF:
Quote:

Originally posted by Mad Gus:
Scouts give changing and inaccurate reporting in the 50%-200% range.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A related question then. Do the Scout offer "better" guesses at enemy troop strenght than the normal estimates gained by owning an adjacant province (example 40%-300% vs 50%-200%)?
Or does it just offer the possibility of recon behind enemy lines?

fahdiz February 27th, 2004 05:31 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
In the manual, I believe it says that a scouting report is "more accurate" than when using Province Info without one. But I don't think the manual notes the percentage difference.

Pocus February 27th, 2004 05:46 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
How does the AI raise armies?

90% income for pure crap, 10% for heavy units.

Demosthenes February 27th, 2004 06:53 PM

Re: How does the AI raise armies?
 
While the scout reports are perhaps more accurate than having no info at all, in my experience the reports that come from having High Dominion in an uncontrolled province seem to be the most accurate though they don't seem to detect Magic Sites.


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