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Nephelim March 15th, 2004 06:53 PM

Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
My first topic.. Yum. Hopefully the answer is other than 'use the search function'

I was playing as Man, and using the demigoddess (Daughter of Tuatha?) as my pretender.

She's got some HP, so I figure I'll get some SC usage out of her before she retires to research and cast rituals.

I set her to: Fire Shield, Flight, Personal Regen, Soothing Song, Attack rear

My assumption would be that she would cast flight on -herself-, and then fly on over to the rear of the army and beat up on some commanders... No.

So she casts all her spells, and starts Strolling.. nay, meandering, her way across the field.. *sigh* I check her stats, no flying icon. I check the stats of every other soldier on the field (There was just a dozen longspears to keep people off her while casting)... none of them have the flight icon...

This happened in three successive battles, the second and third times, I paused right after she cast flight to look for who was flying (not wanting the person to die before I found them) and found nobody. (I gave up on the plan after three failures)

1) Any idea what happened?
2) Any way to specify "Cast it on your damn self!"?

fahdiz March 15th, 2004 06:59 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nephelim:
My first topic.. Yum. Hopefully the answer is other than 'use the search function'

I was playing as Man, and using the demigoddess (Daughter of Tuatha?) as my pretender.

She's got some HP, so I figure I'll get some SC usage out of her before she retires to research and cast rituals.

I set her to: Fire Shield, Flight, Personal Regen, Soothing Song, Attack rear

My assumption would be that she would cast flight on -herself-, and then fly on over to the rear of the army and beat up on some commanders... No.

So she casts all her spells, and starts Strolling.. nay, meandering, her way across the field.. *sigh* I check her stats, no flying icon. I check the stats of every other soldier on the field (There was just a dozen longspears to keep people off her while casting)... none of them have the flight icon...

This happened in three successive battles, the second and third times, I paused right after she cast flight to look for who was flying (not wanting the person to die before I found them) and found nobody. (I gave up on the plan after three failures)

1) Any idea what happened?
2) Any way to specify "Cast it on your damn self!"?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not sure what happened (certainly Flight should have been cast on somebody, but perhaps that's a blessing in disguise given that Murphy's Law indicates that it would be on the one unit you didn't want flying around), but at any rate I *do* know that you're much better off giving her Winged Shoes or some such. Plus it saves you the fatigue of casting Flight, and frees up an extra slot for your casting script. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Make sure she's got some reinvigoration items, too, as flying tends to eat up fatigue quite a bit.

[ March 15, 2004, 17:12: Message edited by: fahdiz ]

Truper March 15th, 2004 08:11 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
There are a few spells that you learn not to use after a while, for the very reason you mention - you can't be sure whom they'll be cast upon. Aim is another that comes to mind. If mages would cast it upon themselves, it would be great, but they're more than likely going to cast it on some javalin-tossers or somebody. Blink is a spell I could think of some wonderful uses for - if I could control where the mage would blink to. As it is, I've never even tried to cast it.

Kristoffer O March 15th, 2004 08:34 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
There has been a flight bug earlier. Perhaps it wasn't fixed. We'll take a look.

Taqwus March 15th, 2004 08:53 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
Regarding blink, I tend to grin evilly when I see an AI mage wearing the Sandals of the Crane. Such mages tend to not Last very long.
Winged Shoes are a cheap and more controllable alternative to the Flight spell, ayup. Stymphalian Wings is interesting, but if memory serves adds Trampling as well, and I don't consider Trample a good thing on a large commander who by then can be equipped with decent weapons.

Cainehill May 4th, 2004 05:27 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
There has been a flight bug earlier. Perhaps it wasn't fixed. We'll take a look.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'd say there's still a flight bug. When a Pretender (or other mage) is attacking provinces all by itself, the game AI is ignoring "Flight" which was set in the script.

In this situation, it should cast flight upon the Pretender, because there isn't anyone else to cast it on. But instead - it picks a random spell.

Happened 3 times as I was testing an air-magic Scorpion King.

Endoperez May 4th, 2004 08:13 PM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
And I'm not sure about DomII, but in singleplayer my lone Wyrm cast Flight... on an opposing Van! It seems the target of Flight can never be the caster him-/herself, even if no other targets are in range.

Vynd May 7th, 2004 05:00 AM

Re: Flight spell... Who\'s flying?
 
I just noticed this myself. My Pretender, all alone in a battle, refuses to cast Flight at all.

Edit: Heh, somehow I skipped over Cainehill's post when reading this thread the first time. Excuse my repetition of his discovery.

[ May 07, 2004, 04:01: Message edited by: Vynd ]


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