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Gandalf Parker April 14th, 2004 06:45 PM

Anti-Wishlist
 
Im sure this will cause some discussion. Remember that if this degenerates into name calling and slander, the whole thread may disappear.

This is my list of things that people have asked Illwinter or Shrapnel to do, which I feel can be scratched off (or at least put behind other considerations). Nothing is listed here because it would be too much work. This is a list of things that are already done by Users, but maybe not in as friendly or immeadiate a manner as some would like. That makes the request for these move from "do this" to "do this better" which I think means it can wait abit.

Some are 3rd party add-ons. Others are done by making creative use of the command_line switches and some scripting, and some are being provided by Users in a way which is better than we are likely to see officially for awhile. Most of these have already been discussed on this forum so please at least try the "search" button in the upper right of the screen before asking in this thread how these are done.

1) A button to make screen shots, or screen saves.

2) save a battle as an uploadable and replayable movie file.

3) an option to play my own music, or replace the music being played.

4) multiple autosaves for games.

5) multiple game saves where I can name them and restore them.

6) saving multiple god files.

7) a timer alarm so I dont miss work.

8) have it make a sound when hosting is done cause my bud takes forever to do his turn.

9) Battle Simulator.

10) multiple directory support for things like maps and mods.

11) play over a lan with one CD.

12) random map generator.

13) random opponents.

14) tutorial.

15) better documentation.

16) a game-finder player-matchup site.

17) anonymous upload site where I can send screen shots and upload the mods/maps I do.

18) support chat area.

19) cheat codes.

20) reverse the order of the web-board postings.

LET THE FLAM.... I mean, LET THE GAMES BEGIN
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[ April 14, 2004, 17:49: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

HotNifeThruButr April 14th, 2004 07:00 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Wait... you DON'T want these?

I'm sure a tutorial would be a lot of help for newbies. And randomize opponents would be good for quick games or people who don't have an enemy of choice (personally, though, I like to trounce Arcosephale) And reversing the order of the postings would help someone new to this forum.

On the other hand, I agree with you on the Battle Simulator and multiple game saves. Imagine simulating every battle before you fight and seeing the results before actually taking the field. Or being able to redo every bad decision you make.

Ragnarok-X April 14th, 2004 07:05 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
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1) A button to make screen shots, or screen saves.

11) play over a lan with one CD.

13) random opponents.

18) support chat area.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">While i agree with most of your cuts i think those above are almost essentiall to me, in addition they shouldnt be THAT hard to implent, especially 11) is really important for me to play over big lan events.

[ April 14, 2004, 18:11: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Gandalf Parker April 14th, 2004 07:10 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Maybe I wasnt clear enough. Everything on the list is a good idea to someone and I wouldnt argue that. But they are already done. Its available. Its just not a button from inside the game. Its something the Users themselves have already taken care of so why slow up the devs with it.

LATER if they feel like doing any of those or improving what we have then thats fine. I just dont see "making something easier" as being on the list equal with other things.

[ April 14, 2004, 18:13: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Kel April 14th, 2004 09:10 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
I think it is a really great idea to prioritize player requested features, which seems to be the intent here.

However, I don't know that a partially implemented Version of something that is very important...should necessarily be lower priority than something completely new but more peripheral.

This is just me, personally, but I would rather see a list of requests and then try and prioritize them in some way, noting which ones are partially implemented already through player mods, if that makes any sense.

- Kel

Reverend Zombie April 14th, 2004 09:17 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Quote:

16) a game-finder player-matchup site.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Would this be the same as a dedicated site that acts as a 24/7 server for running games (similar to what Mosehansen is doing)?

If you are saying that that should be OFF the wishlist for a game billed as "multiplayer friendly," I would have to disagree.

While the ability for players to host games on machines they are willing to run 24/7 has a certain DIY appeal, there really ought to be an Illwinter/Shrapnel/3rd-party-contractor site to host and run games.

Mosehansen could close up shop anytime he wants too after, all.

Nappa April 14th, 2004 09:23 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
This is the second time I've read about random maps. I looked using the search function and only found more references to them. Am I being blind? Would someone point me in the right direction please?

[ April 14, 2004, 20:24: Message edited by: Nappa ]

Kel April 14th, 2004 09:40 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nappa:
This is the second time I've read about random maps. I looked using the search function and only found more references to them. Am I being blind? Would someone point me in the right direction please?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gandalf Parker was nice enough to set up this site:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion/Dominions2/

There is some information in the readme.txt file on how to use them.

- Kel

Gandalf Parker April 14th, 2004 09:53 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kel:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Nappa:
This is the second time I've read about random maps. I looked using the search function and only found more references to them. Am I being blind? Would someone point me in the right direction please?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gandalf Parker was nice enough to set up this site:
http://www.techno-mage.com/~dominion/Dominions2/
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually it would probably be more informative to send them to www.dom2minions.com now that I have some REAL web pages up. Sorry those took so long.

I really need to get back to the small, medium, large groupings like I had with Dom1. So far for Dom2 Im only generating the over-huge epic size.

[ April 14, 2004, 20:55: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Kel April 14th, 2004 09:55 PM

Re: Anti-Wishlist
 
[quote]Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Quote:

]Actually it would probably be more informative to send them to www.dom2minions.com now that I have some REAL web pages up. Sorry those took so long.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh, sorry, I got the link from the sticky thread of links http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ah well, there you go !

- Kel


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