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Huzurdaddi May 31st, 2004 03:21 AM

Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
Does anyone know how this works?

Heck does anyone know how passive intelligence works at all? I'm totally mystified!

Sometimes I get great reports. Sometimes I get almost nothing. It's weird.

I'm thinking that dominion somehow plays a role ( but to be honest I don't have any evidence ).

Has anyone cracked this nut before? I did a forum search and there was only a vague reference to it.

Norfleet May 31st, 2004 05:58 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
I think that having dominion in the province is functionally similar to having a scout in the province, when viewing military forces, and will also display the population of the province, which spies do not reveal.

Huzurdaddi May 31st, 2004 06:52 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
However sometimes I can see armies in provinces adjacent to me even when I do not have dominion in those provinces. Uhm ... at least I thought it was when I did not have dominion. Perhaps I was not being careful with my observations?

liga May 31st, 2004 08:55 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
As far as I know:

1) if you have positive dominions in one provinces (independent as far away is form your provinces) you got info about: population, income and resources

2) you have infos about enemy in the provinces only for provinces close to your controlled provinces or where you have steath units

I know that the info (in 2) are accurate between 50% and 200% of the real valus. I don't know if having positive dominions gives you better infos about enemy troops, but I think not!

bye bye
Liga

Stormbinder May 31st, 2004 11:01 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by liga:
As far as I know:

1) if you have positive dominions in one provinces (independent as far away is form your provinces) you got info about: population, income and resources

2) you have infos about enemy in the provinces only for provinces close to your controlled provinces or where you have steath units

I know that the info (in 2) are accurate between 50% and 200% of the real valus. I don't know if having positive dominions gives you better infos about enemy troops, but I think not!

bye bye
Liga

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Spies gives you more accurate info than scouts. They also gove more detailed report, informing you about things such as magic sites in the province.

Skolem May 31st, 2004 11:03 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by liga:
I know that the info (in 2) are accurate between 50% and 200% of the real valus. I don't know if having positive dominions gives you better infos about enemy troops, but I think not!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you have arcoscephale it does http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Are spy better at scrying enemy provinces than scout or can they just spy at enemy castle as bonus?
does anyone know how the accuraties are calculated?
Skolem

Vynd June 1st, 2004 01:02 AM

Re: Dominion\'s effect on passive intelligence?
 
You get an intelligence report for every province that borders your empire. That's what Liga meant by provinces that are close to you. You don't have any intelligence reports for provinces that are next to you on the first turn because the reports are generated at the end of each turn.

I suspect that if you're finding the value of your reports to vary wildly, it is probably because some of the reports are based on your dominion while some are based on the neighboring province reconaisance.

From what I have seen, dominion alone gives you less information than any other method. I think that it does depend on the strength of the dominion. For instance, I am pretty sure that once you get to level 1 dominion you can read the name of a province. I've never had a dominion level in a non-neighboring province much higher than 1 or 2, though, so I can't say what kind of info you get from really high dominion levels.

As for the scout/spy question, having a hidden unit in a space generates a more accurate report. Scouts are no better at this than any other hidden unit, they're just the cheapest and easiest to use for this purpose. Spies generate more accurate military reports than scouts and can see revealed magic sites and troops inside of forts.


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