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PDF June 1st, 2004 10:34 AM

What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
1- A mage that already "Lost one eye" puts on an Eye of Accuracy ? Does he become blind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ? It'll make sense he put it in his "lost" eyeslot ...

2- A diseased, Twiceborn mage dies from the disease ? Does he become a Wight as should be ? (I've had strange experience with death from disease, in one case my stealthy prophet died this way while in enemy territory and I was never able to appoint a new prophet thereafter)

Norfleet June 1st, 2004 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by PDF:
1- A mage that already "Lost one eye" puts on an Eye of Accuracy ? Does he become blind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ? It'll make sense he put it in his "lost" eyeslot ...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He will not lose another eye if you give him an eye of accuracy, unless you give him two eyes.

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2- A diseased, Twiceborn mage dies from the disease ? Does he become a Wight as should be ? (I've had strange experience with death from disease, in one case my stealthy prophet died this way while in enemy territory and I was never able to appoint a new prophet thereafter)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He should. I've had a twiceborned fellow I deliberately drowned to kill him and turn him into a Wight Mage. He came back as expected.

You do have to make sure he dies within your dominion for this to work, however, and disease is definitely a bad way to do it, as he'll keep his afflictions gained while being diseased.

PDF June 1st, 2004 11:28 AM

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Thanks for the answers Norfleet !
And about my Twiceborn mage, it wasn't a "strategy" to have him diseased : he was my RB Prenteder and got the disease from a site on his second province search on turn 12 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ... I saved him with a Regen ring when he had only 2 hp left, and he cast Twiceborn thereafter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
There is some risk involved if I let him die however, lest him get Feebleminded or Mute http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Gandalf Parker June 1st, 2004 04:19 PM

Re: What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
From the
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic newsgroup:
posted by Leejay Wu and responded by Jachues Vidal

>> Oh, and one might note that Twiceborn works on the
>> Void Lurker, as it's alive. Just don't forget that if
>> you want to try this, you need both death magic (for the
>> Twiceborn) and water magic (so your new divine wight
>> mage doesn't immediately drown). Then you get a 0-pt
>> 15/path astral 3+ undead mage with all slots, cold
>> immunity, and chill effect as your pretender.
>
> Just FYI, not being lifeless also allows your Lurker to cast
> Transformation if it's lacking in death magic. Although you'd better
> have some way to cure an occasional feeblemind, and a decent stock of
> nature gems to repeat the process in case it turns into a wimpy
> Dragonfly ;-)

This went straight into my tactics file. Choose cheap, buy scales, then change your god into something else. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 01, 2004, 15:21: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

PDF June 1st, 2004 09:45 PM

Re: What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
Hey guys, we've found something to make *better* RMs and Immobile pretenders ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Norfleet June 1st, 2004 10:41 PM

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Old news. I've been fooling with that for awhile now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Or did you mean you found something new?

Twiceborn will work on your pretender. Ritual of Rebirth, however, won't (despite that the flavor text of the mummy indicates a "dead god or giant", which you would think implies that a god could be mummified in such a manner....)

Gandalf Parker June 1st, 2004 11:36 PM

Re: What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
I think the "we've" found was the important part. Of course others knew it (after all I was posting other peoples tips) but now its a "we" thing. (or did you mean that you posted that tip earlier?)

Arralen June 2nd, 2004 01:03 AM

Re: What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
Does Twiceborn work on pretenders ??

I think not, and it shouldn't anyway, IMHO.

Better kill him off fast and have your priest call him back - you'll only loose some magic, but dying from disease will get him 2..4 additional afflictions most of which will not vanish by themselves.

Or even better - keep him alive and have him healed(GoH, Chalice, Fairy Queen).

PDF June 2nd, 2004 01:24 AM

Re: What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Arralen:
Does Twiceborn work on pretenders ??

I think not, and it shouldn't anyway, IMHO.

Better kill him off fast and have your priest call him back - you'll only loose some magic, but dying from disease will get him 2..4 additional afflictions most of which will not vanish by themselves.

Or even better - keep him alive and have him healed(GoH, Chalice, Fairy Queen).

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why shouldn't it work on Pretenders ? Anyway as he get diseased very soon and I couldn't possibly "kill him" on a whim he took a couple afflictions but nothing serious.
And having him called back is a killer for a 6 path-2 RB ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
As for healing him fully it ain't that easy with Abysia, Demons don't heal http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif


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