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Gandalf Parker June 11th, 2004 03:57 PM

Re: leader limit ?
 
I dont think so. Im pretty sure most of the limits have been drastically increased, even doubled from Dom1 (did I read that right? or did you mean that you were playing the Dom2 demo?)

By the way, Dom2 can handle maps up to 500 provinces now. (I love giant maps)

Taqwus June 11th, 2004 04:32 PM

Re: leader limit ?
 
I think there's still a wall at 32000 troops (maybe 32767), but you're unlikely to reach that if you're actually pushing hard to win and efficiently moving troops to the front constantly. Now, if you're just playing around with the Ashen Empire and trying to collect all the artifacts while creating hordes of 10-all immortal mages, you might, but...

Boron June 11th, 2004 04:51 PM

Re: leader limit ?
 
good to hear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
@ gandalf yeah i played dom 1 demo since there was no turn limit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
but there i thought it would be a good idea to have at least 1 arch bishop in every province constantly summoning undeads http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
but they also summoned randomly leaders like mounted kings too and so when i had 50 provinces everywhere 1-3 undead arch bishops i suddenly couldn't summon any more leaders
i didn't count it but i think the leaderlimit was somewhere around 250

@ taqwus
do you mean 32000 per province or at all ?
and if there is a leaderlimit do local defense leaders / units count towards troop / leader limit too ? they don't or ?

Taqwus June 11th, 2004 07:41 PM

Re: leader limit ?
 
The unit limit is total -- but I don't remember whether it's per side or for the entire world. Might be for the world; most nations aren't going to get close to that.

PD units are not actually real units for almost any purpose. You don't need to feed them, don't pay maintenance for them, can't assign formations, can't equip their leaders, their leaders are immune to assassination, they can't be affected by army-bLasting rituals, et al. I doubt they count against unit limits, because they wouldn't be stored in the unit table but instead as a statistic associated with the province which is only translated into units for battle.

Karacan June 11th, 2004 11:43 PM

Re: leader limit ?
 
Just a minor correction: The appearance of those mounted kings wasn't caused by the summoning of the ermorian bishops, but rather by the randomly generated undead rabble each turn for your ermorian dominion. This is still true in DomII (with the exception of Ermor: Broken Empire, which does not automatically generate units in its provinces).

Please consider it a helpful hint, not a "oh, just someone who has to look like an annoying know-it-all"... that's other people's job. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PvK June 12th, 2004 12:08 AM

Re: leader limit ?
 
32000 seems like way too low a limit for total units in the world. It's not like there is a lack of memory or processing power to deal with more units.

PvK

Boron June 12th, 2004 01:03 AM

Re: leader limit ?
 
i think i have to agree with pvk
at least 32000 for the whole world seems a bit small because if you play a 300 province map with ashen ermor included then this would be achieved quite quickly i guess

nobody has said so far that he has built enough leaders to come to the leaderlimit so i am optimistic that it is unlike in dominions 1 really not easy to come close too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Boron June 12th, 2004 01:04 AM

leader limit ?
 
i finally got my copy of dominions 2 today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
until today i played much the dominion 1 demo.
but there was a kind of annoying leadership limit at 200 or 250 leaders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
is there still a limit in dominions 2 ? hopefully not or at least at 1000 or more leaders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

because in sp i like long / large games and in the demo i played the europe scenario with 300 provinces as ermor and had the idea to have 2-3 undead priests summoning undeads in every province of me .


and is there a troop limit too ?


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