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Ragnarok-X June 28th, 2004 06:07 PM

Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
Hi everyone, i just started a new PBEM game and choosed Abyisa. Now im thinking about which leader to turn into a prophet. I guess the Anathement Dragon will be the best, due to this already high holy level. What do you suggest ? Im playing against 2 KIs, one human ermor and one human man. I think the Anathement Dragon would be the best bet because he could most propably banish the hell out of ermor.

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Cainehill June 28th, 2004 07:10 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
I really like the A. Dragon for prophet with Abysia. Very good at banishing; even better, the Holy-5 lets him cast Smite, which is a very good way (early on) to get into the Hall of Fame and possibly get a great ability.

Norfleet June 28th, 2004 07:40 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
I tend to favor "ability first, prophetization later". The heroic ability is somewhat of a grab bag, and you're more likely to end up with something useless than anything good.

Nagot Gick Fel June 28th, 2004 09:17 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
I'd pick a Demonbred, Slayer or Salamander over a Dragon any day. The first one because he's tough and flies, the 2nd because of his stealth, the Last one because he's the cheapest way to get Fanaticism and Divine Blessing - which are much more important than Smite to me. Dragons are horrendously expensive, and the few I can muster always have better things to do than leading my armies or strenghtening my dominion.

SelfishGene June 28th, 2004 09:34 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
Just a thought:

Making a prophet out of a Warlord creates the UberWarlord, who gains a set of battleaxes (9 0 0 3) in place of his default axes ( 7 -1 -1 1), and with the dominion hitpoint and strength bonus, becomes a pretty decent thug.

Boron June 28th, 2004 09:58 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
hm i would appoint a rather unimportant but useful leader like a scout that you can send on a suicide mission after a couple of turns when you e.g. can summon your first ice devil / arch demon and make one of these then a prophet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Stormbinder June 28th, 2004 11:27 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Boron:
hm i would appoint a rather unimportant but useful leader like a scout that you can send on a suicide mission after a couple of turns when you e.g. can summon your first ice devil / arch demon and make one of these then a prophet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why would you want to make IceDevil a prophet for Abissia? They are best at raiding enemy provinces and annihating small armies, meaning they will operate most of the time behind enemy lines, if you are planing to wage agressive war. In such situation being prophet becomes major weakness, since it deminish both their hitpoints and fighting abilities.

Boron June 29th, 2004 02:46 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stormbinder:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Boron:
hm i would appoint a rather unimportant but useful leader like a scout that you can send on a suicide mission after a couple of turns when you e.g. can summon your first ice devil / arch demon and make one of these then a prophet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why would you want to make IceDevil a prophet for Abissia? They are best at raiding enemy provinces and annihating small armies, meaning they will operate most of the time behind enemy lines, if you are planing to wage agressive war. In such situation being prophet becomes major weakness, since it deminish both their hitpoints and fighting abilities. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">good reasons. what about making a vampire count a prophet ? if you use him for defense / reconquering of lost provinces one turn before you will most likely have high own dominion and so the extra hp are quite a boost . he most likely doesn't kill the entire enemy army but at least kills with luck parts of it and you can do it every turn without cost if the province is not farer away from your capitol than 3 provinces .

Cohen June 29th, 2004 03:01 PM

Re: Abysia: Who to prophet, Anathement Dragon or Demonbred ?
 
I usually start with the Warlord.
It gives a non spellcasting base unit able to sermon of courage, and bless, not bothering the Anthemaths eventually I use to support conquering to cast sermons/fanaticism on troops.

Unless you won't commit your Warlord on fight, while a warlord prophet could too with some eq const-2.

This probably ends his real usage when indies turn off.

Second choice is the A.Dragon.
He can flare by default, with +2 Aim could be nice.
He get 5 priestly levels, so he can blood sacrifice 5 slaves/turn (or 7 with the Jade Knife), in case of need. (and I often find it useful to dominion push or spread heat).

Big Devils could be good to prophetize only if they've great mobility, like those with astral magic (teleport). You could have good defensive big guys. Considering with Abysya you can blood sacrifice, your prophet should be exploited.


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