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Graeme Dice August 7th, 2004 02:10 PM

Re: MR penetration
 
Quote:

Originally posted by magnate:
Quick question: does the Spell Focus work with the Ethereal Crossbow? (& do any of the other -MR items, like the rings of sorc/wiz?)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The penetration items only affect spells, not items.

Endoperez August 7th, 2004 08:53 PM

Re: MR penetration
 
Quote:

Originally posted by magnate:
Bigger question: what shall I play next? I've just finished an SP game as Ulm: big map, 10 AIs, SC pretender, lots of forging. Made loads of mistakes, did things in the wrong order etc. Really like Ulm and would kind of like to do it again and do better ... but there are still about a dozen races I've not tried yet! Do you guys play a few races repeatedly, or try them all?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Know thy enemy! I think you should try all nations, maybe only for one game and even then only briefly, but atleast a little. After that you know what to expect from them and also know what nations suit your playing style. Also, after you see AI killing your Ulmish elite armies with couple of Salamanders and want to try how effective they can be you halready have grasped the basics, and see that Salamanders are useable but very expensive.

[ August 07, 2004, 19:54: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

Agrajag August 7th, 2004 10:03 PM

Re: MR penetration
 
MY advice would be playing without SCs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
I don't know... I guess playing a strategy game would usualy mean planning and massing armies for me, not researching a bit, summoning a bit, forging a bit and destroy the world with one unit :\
Maybe its just me who thinks the strategy games are more about armies than about a single superunit crushing everything, that belongs in RPG games IMO...

Endoperez August 7th, 2004 10:48 PM

Re: MR penetration
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Agrajag:
MY advice would be playing without SCs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
I don't know... I guess playing a strategy game would usualy mean planning and massing armies for me, not researching a bit, summoning a bit, forging a bit and destroy the world with one unit :\
Maybe its just me who thinks the strategy games are more about armies than about a single superunit crushing everything, that belongs in RPG games IMO...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">More to "rpg" games where the R stands fow Rogue and its descendants. Adom, Nethack, Diablo... In that scale it is hard to find it elsewhere. And I, too, prefer to play with conventional armies (with mages) but sometimes launch a combatant to see how it will do. I play single-player only, and in the Dom:PPP multiplayer game I played in I harassed the other player with SCs. They did not attack his armies, but his gem-producing provinces, the provinces all around his citadel, sometimes his castles, and even caused his nice sacred army being blinded and burned to cinders as his Ark and Forbidden Light -powered Master Enslave didn't hurt my Ice Devil... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Arryn August 7th, 2004 10:53 PM

Re: MR penetration
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Agrajag:
Maybe its just me who thinks the strategy games are more about armies than about a single superunit crushing everything, that belongs in RPG games IMO...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's you. Your conception of "strategy" gaming appears limited to the real-time genre's twitchfest of zerg-style warfare. No subtlety whatsoever. One of the beautiful things about Dom 2 is that you can take the superhero route, or the high-magic route, or the zerg route, or the stealth route, or custom combos of any them.

BTW, RPGs do not invariably depend on a superunit. There are, believe it or not, some RPGs that actually support and encourage the concept of Groups, cooperation, and specialist characters.

Think outside the box ...

magnate August 8th, 2004 01:31 AM

MR penetration
 
Quick question: does the Spell Focus work with the Ethereal Crossbow? (& do any of the other -MR items, like the rings of sorc/wiz?)

Bigger question: what shall I play next? I've just finished an SP game as Ulm: big map, 10 AIs, SC pretender, lots of forging. Made loads of mistakes, did things in the wrong order etc. Really like Ulm and would kind of like to do it again and do better ... but there are still about a dozen races I've not tried yet! Do you guys play a few races repeatedly, or try them all?

CC

Boron August 8th, 2004 01:49 AM

Re: MR penetration
 
i try to try all short and play a couple which i like often http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
i have always about 5 favourite races but this is not static but changes from time to time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
i liked ermor + pan cw a lot e.g. in the beginning but now i replace them by mictlan and jotunheim niefelheim e.g. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ulm is cool forging is awesome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Norfleet August 8th, 2004 02:22 AM

Re: MR penetration
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Agrajag:
I don't know... I guess playing a strategy game would usualy mean planning and massing armies for me, not researching a bit, summoning a bit, forging a bit and destroy the world with one unit :\
Maybe its just me who thinks the strategy games are more about armies than about a single superunit crushing everything, that belongs in RPG games IMO...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Dude, this is Dominions II. An epic war of gods and heroes of myth and legend. An entire game mechanic, the Hall of Fame, exists to promote and perpetuate this kind of thinking and behavior. "Superheroes", being the bread and butter of ancient myth, are as the bread and butter of Dom2.


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